House Ways and Means Committee  4/23/18

House Ways and Means Committee 4/23/18


>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: THE MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL NOTE THE ROLE AND I NOTE THE NIC E NEW SPRING THAT WE GOT ON THAT GAVEL. DO YOU HEAR THAT? OKAY THERE IS A QUORUM. WE HAVE THE MINUTES OF APRIL 16 BEFORE US. REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON MOVES APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. ANY ADDITIONS; CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS OR MINUTES? SEEING NONE; ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED; NAY. TH E MOTION PREVAILS. THE MINUTES OF APRIL 16 ARE PROVED.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A RUNDOWN ON WHERE I SEE THINGS GOING THIS WEEK BUT REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. I WASN’T SURE IF WE WERE GOING TO IVAN LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY HAVE ONE BILL; MULTIPLE BILLS?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: SURE. SPEECH>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: IF YOU COULD GIVE US A RUNDOWN THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: SURE FOR TODAY WILL TAKE UP THE HIGHER ED BILL FIRST. WE WOULD DEAL WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT ALL TEMPORARY LAY IT OVER AND WE WILL TAKE UP THE EDUCATION FINANCE BILL AND DEAL WITH THE AMENDMENTS AND THE PLAN THEN IS TO HAVE THOSE TWO LIKE WE DID TWO YEARS AGO TRAVEL IS ONE BILL. SO WE WOULD AMEND THE PROPOSED TO AMEND THE HIGHER ED BILL INTO THE EDUCATION FINANCE BILL AND HAVE A EDUCATION BILL. THEN; TOMORROW WE HAVE TWO BILLS UP. WE PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE HAVE LEGACY.. THOSE TWO BILLS WILL TRAVEL SEPARATELY AS THEIR OWN BILLS. ON WEDNESDAY AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND PENDING REFERRAL; TAXES; AND TAX OF COURSE WILL TRAVEL AS ITS OWN BILL BUT THE OTHER TWO I BELIEVE WILL BE COMBINED TOGETHER INTO ONE BILL THEN; THE FINAL DAY ON THURSDAY WE HAVE A STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE. WE HAVE JOBS ENVIRONMENT AND AGRICULTURE AND I BELIEVE WE ARE; I GUESS; I BELIEVE HIS WE WILL COMBINE ALL FOUR OF THOSE INTO ONE BILL. SO; THERE WOULD BE A TOTAL OF ; IN TERMS OF THE FINANCE BILLS;; NOT COUNTY LEGACY; IT WOULD BE FOR BILLS PLUS; LEGACY PLUS TAXES; PLUS CAPITAL INVESTMENT. REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN I WAS TALKING EARLIER WITH ONE OF OUR STAFF PEOPLE AND I WAS REMINDED THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THEN THEY WERE ALL FOLDED TOGETHER FOR MOST OF THEM WERE FOLDED TOGETHER IN CONFERENCE COMMITTEE. WITHOUT BE AN OUTCOME IN THE END? DO YOU THINK THIS WILL BE CON FREED THE WAY THERE BEING A LINE NOW AND THEN I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS IF THERE’S BE EN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ALIGNMENT WITH THE SENATE? I KNOW WE WOULD HAVE THOSE SO WE WOULD MATCH THAT ALIGNMENT WAS OFTEN HANDLED AT THE STAFF LEVEL WITH THE FISCAL ANALYST DEPARTMENT AND SO ON. SO I’LL BE CURIOUS WHERE WE ARE AND THEN ONCE WE ARE AT THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE LEVEL AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN THERE?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: SURE REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON TO THE SENATE IS ONLY DOING ONE BILL. IT’S MY EXPECTATION THAT IN THE END WE WILL END UP WITH ONE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE. NOT COUNTING OF COURSE LEGACY; CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND TAXES. ALTHOUGH THOSE THINGS COULD CHANGE. I MEAN-BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW. THE REST OF THEM WOULD BE IN ONE SUPPLEMENTAL FINANCE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE COULD SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE IN 2016 COULD>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: THAN ONE WOULD THAT BE DONE? WITHOUT BE DONE WHEN THE BILLS ARE STILL BE FOR THE HOUSE OR WITH A ALL THE CAST ON HOUSE SIDE SEPARATELY AND THEN SINGLE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE SET UP AND THEN THEY JUST GIVE THE JURISDICTION OF ALL THE BILLS THOUGH THE UNDER THAT CONFERENCE COMMITTEE’S UMBRELLA?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON THE BILLS AS I LAID OUT WOULD PASS THE HOUSE AS I MENTIONED; SEPARATE EDUCATION BILL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW THERE’S A COUPLE OF WAYS IT COULD BE DONE .. I THINK JUST UNDERNEATH THE RULES FACT THAT THEY HAVE PAST THE HOUSE MEANS THERE ELIGIBLE FOR CONCERN CONSIDERATION IN CONFERENCE COMMITTEE. WHETHER WE USE THE SENATE BILL AS OUR LAST PHONE BILL OR ONE BILL OR WHETHER WE USE A MOTHER VEHICLE BILL WHICH COULD ALSO BE DONE IT COULD BE DOING ONE OF THOSE TWO WAYS. I GUESS; AT THIS POINT OUT THE TOP OF MY HEAD I CAN TELL YOU WITH THE BILL NUMBER WILL BE FOR IT.>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN THE WORK REASON I WAS WONDERING THE MAKEUP OF THAT CONFERENCE COMMITTEE THE AND THEN THERRE WOULD HAVE RATHER BROAD JURISDICTION AND THERE’S A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT COULD BE HANDLED AS WELL. WE PROBABLY ARE GOING TO NEED TALK FURTHER ABOUT HOW THAT’S GOING TO BE HANDLED.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: HAPPY TO TALK FURTHER BUT I THINK YOU’LL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCED IN 2016. IN 2016 WE PASSED THREE; NOT FOR BILLS OFF THE HOUSE FLOOR. THOSE BILLS WERE-THE SENATE ONLY PASSED ONE BILL. THEY WERE ALL PUT INTO ONE SUPPLEMENTAL FINANCE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE AND THEN THE COMMITTEE DID A BROAD JURISDICTION AND THEN THE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH THE FINAL BILL.>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: THANK YOU.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE; WE WILL START WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION FINANCE BILL. REPRESENTATIVE NORNES MOVES HOUSE FILE 3638 BE LAID OVER FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION. REPRESENTATIVE NORNES.>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. THIS YEAR’S HIGHER EDUCATION OMNIBUS BILL HAS A LITTLE MONEY COULD ALL JUST RUN THROUGH IT . THAT AMOUNTS TO-THERE WAS $1 MILLION AND APPROPRIATED IN THE OFFICE OF HIGHER EDUCATION . THAT IS NOW BEING USED FOR $350;000 TO STATE GRANTS; 100;000 FOR AGRICULTURAL EDUCATION OF LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAMS AND 50;000 FOR TOWARD THE STUDENT LOAN DEBT COUNSELING GRANTS. THEN; 500;000 TO THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM AND THE REMAINDER OF OUR TARGET THIS YEAR IS 5 MILLION AND THAT IS APPROPRIATED TO MINNESOTA STATE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CYBER SECURITY PROGRAM AT METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY MR. CHAIR; THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE MONEY. THIS YEAR IN OUR TARGET.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: OKAY. IF WE DON’T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE BILL REPRESENTATIVE NORNES; WHAT I WOULD DO THEN IS TURNED TO AMENDMENTS IN THE CHAIR WILL MOVE THE A – 10 AMENDMENT. WITH THE AMENDMENT DOES IS IT TAKES $4 MILLION OF THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED TOWARDS METRO STATE FOR THE PARTICULAR PROGRAM THAT REPRESENTATIVE NORNES MENTIONED IN REDUCES THAT TO $1 MILLION .. THEN; IT INCREASES THE APPROPRIATION FOR MINNESOTA STATE AND I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT WERE INCORPORATE A AMENDMENT INTO IT THERE WOULD TAKE $500;000 OF THE MONEY THAT WAS GOING TO GO TO METRO STATE AND HAVE ECHO TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA FOR CAMPUS SUPPORT AND IF I CAN TURN TO COUNSEL MR. SULLIVAN; IF YOU COULD TELL ME HOW THAT WOULD BE IN THIS AMENDMENT?>>STAFF: TO CREATE THE AMENDMENT THE CHAIR DESCRIBED; THE CHANGES TO THE A – 10 AMENDMENT WOULD BE INSERT PAGE 2; LINE 31; DELIGHT $5;500;000 AND INSERT; 5 MILLION. THE SECOND CHANGE TO THE A – 10 AMENDMENT IS A LINE FOR. DELETE; $4;500;000 AND INSERT; $4 MILLION. THE FINAL CHANGE WOULD BE ON THE A – A – 10 AMENDMENT AFTER LINE 8; INSERT; PAGE 3 AFTER LINE 9 INSERT; QUOTATION; SECTION 4. BOARD OF REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY MINNESOTA AND IN THE THIRD COLUMN INSERT; $500;000 AND THIS IS A ONE-TIME APPROPRIATION AND QUOTATION.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: OKAY. MEMBERS I GUESS IN THE END YOU HAVE THE $500;000 FOR THE UNIVERSITY AND $4 MILLION FOR THE MINNESOTA STATE SYSTEM UNDER EPA UNDER THE A – 10 AMENDMENT. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION TO THE A – 10 AMENDMENTS? REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING.>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. I WONDER IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND EXPLAIN WHY YOU’RE DOING IT?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: WHY I AM OFFERING THE AMENDMENTS?>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: WITHOUT IS NOW SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE AMENDMENT AND I WONDER IF YOU WOULD JUST DESCRIBE WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT ITSELF OR THE INCORPORATION THAT MR. SULLIVAN JUST DESCRIBED?>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: WELL MR. CHAIR I’LL BE VOTING ON THE INCORPORATION [INAUDIBLE / CROSS-TALKING]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: NO. THAT’S INCORPORATE I WASN’T SURE IF YOU ASK ME THAT OR THE AMENDMENT AS A WHOLE>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: I’M ASKING YOU ABOUT THE AMENDMENT WITH THE INCORPORATION.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: ALL RIGHT; WELL I GUESS REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING I THINK THE PROJECT AND METRO STATE THE CYBER SECURITY PROJECT IS DESCRIBED IS VERY INTERESTING FROM WHAT I KNOW IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. I ALSO KNOW IT WAS NEVER FORMALLY APPROVED BY THE MINNESOTA STATE BOARD AND SO I WANT TO LEAVE SO ME MONEY IN FOR IT SO WE CAN FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS IN CONFERENCE BUT AT THE SAME TIME I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER NEEDS OUT THERE AMONGST THE MINNESOTA STATE SYSTEM. IN PARTICULAR; AND SO I FELT THEY SHOULD HAVE MORE MONEY THAN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY GIVEN AND THAT IN CASE WE WANT TO FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA IN CONFERENCE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE A POSITION; TOO. REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: THAN K YOU; MR. CHAIR YOU HAVE ANYTHING PARTICULAR IN MIND FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU ARE NOW ALLOCATING TO THE UNIVERSITY I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS A PARTICULAR PROJECT OR YOU’RE JUST-SOUNDS LIKE YOU’RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE SOME PLACEHOLDER FOR THEM?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: IT WOULD BE GEN. CAMPUS SUPPORT REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING.>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: THANK YOU.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED; NAY. THE MOTION PREVAILS. THE A – 10 AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: MEMBERS; AT THIS-I GUESS AT THIS TIME WHAT I’M GOING TO DO ISLAY OVER HOUSE FILE 3638 FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION IN THE LATER EDUCATION FINANCE BILL AND AT THAT POINT I THINK WHEN WETAKE UP THAT BILL TO AMENDED INTO THE EDUCATION FINANCE BILL THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OR DEBATE ABOUT THE MERITS OF HOUSE FILE 3638 AS AMENDED. ALL RIGHT; HOUSE FILE 3638 AS AMENDED IS TEMPORARILY LAID OVER.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE LOON. REPRESENTATIVE LOON MOVES HOUSE FILE 4328 BE REFERRED TO THE GENERAL REGISTER. REPRESENTATIVE LOON; DO YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE THE BILL OR TAKE AMENDMENTS FIRST?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: YOUR PREFERENCE; MR. CHAIR.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: WELL WHY DON’T WE GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE BILL REPRESENTATIVE LOON COULD I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: ALL RIGHT; THEN IT THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR ALL STATE TO THE HIGH 10;000 FOOT POINTS AND OBVIOUSLY IF MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS THEY CONNECTED I’LL BE HAPPY TO OFFER MORE INFORMATION IF REQUIRED. HOUSE FILE 4328 IS THE EDUCATION OMNIBUS SUPPLEMENTAL BILL. IT ADDS 30.2 MILLION OF FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019 TO OUR SCHOOLS. 28.5 MILLION OF THAT IS FOR STUDENT SAFETY AND SCHOOL SCHOOLS CURRENTLY. THIS COMMITMENT TO STUDENT SAFETY AND SCHOOL SECURITY INCLUDES $27.5 MILLION IN ONGOING FUNDING AND FUNDING WILL ALSO BE PROVIDED TO CHARTER SCHOOLS AND TWO COOPERATIVES WHERE SAFE SCHOOLS FOR SPECIFIC SAFE SCHOOLS RESOURCES SOMETHING THEY DON’TCURRENTLY RECEIVE. SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019 SPECIFICALLY WE WILL PROVIDE 20.2 MILLION FOR SAFE SCHOOLS REVENUE 5 MILLION FOR ADDITIONAL SCHOOL EIGHT MENTAL HEALTH GRANTS; 2 MILLION FOR PHYSICAL SECURITY AUDITS FOR SCHOOLS; $400;000 FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OR LIAISON OFFICER TRAINING;; 300 ;000 FOR SCHOOL THREAT ASSESSMENT TRAINING AND $350;000 FOR OPIOID AND SUBSTANCE MISUSE PREVENTION. THE STUDENT SAFETY AND SCHOOL SECURITY PROVISIONS ARE REALLY A CONFERENCE OF PACKAGE THAT COMBINES ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR EXISTING RESOURCES AND WE TOOK PROPOSALS FROM EVERYWHERE. MUCH OF WHAT IS INCLUDED ARE THINGS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT THE GOVERNOR OFFERED IN MANY MEMBERS BROUGHT FORWARD TO BILLS A BIPARTISAN BASIS. I THINK WE HEARD VIRTUALLY EVERY BILL THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED AND WE HAVE GOT MUCH OF THAT IN THIS PACKAGE. SO THE SAFE SCHOOLS LEVY IS A CURRENT PROGRAM AN D WE ARE CONVERTING THAT TO SAFE SCHOOLS REVENUE .. WE ARE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL $18 PER PUPIL FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND $18 PER PUPIL FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS AND AGAIN THEY NOT RECEIVED ANY REVENUE FOR THIS PURPOSE IN THE PAST. DISTRICTS AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE WITH SMALL STUDENT POPULATIONS; THEY WILL BE GUARANTEED A MINIMUM WERE FOUR OF $30;000 AND SAVE SCHOOL REVENUE AND COOPERATIVES WILL BE FUNDED WITH $7.50 PER PUPIL FROM THE MEMBER DISTRICTS. INTERMEDIATES NEW CURRENT RECEIVE SOME STATE SCHOOL FUN THEY RECEIVED $50 PER PUPIL AND WE ARE GOING TO OFFER THEM ONE TIME $6.50 PER PUPIL REVENUE IN FISCAL YEAR 19. THE EXISTING $36 ARE THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE THAT IS A PER-PUPIL LEVY. ALL PAID BY LOCAL TAXPAYERSIS NOW GOING TO BE EQUALIZED AT 60.5% STATEWIDE ADJUSTED NET TAX CAPACITY. SO THAT’S GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL AID TO DISTRICTS OF LOW PROPERTY VALUES OR PROPERTY FOR DISTRICT AND THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO SHOULDER ALL THAT ON THEIR LOCAL PROPERTY TAX PAYERS. ALONG WITH THIS AID; THE BILL INCLUDES LANGUAGE TO EXPAND THE AUTHORIZED USE OF LONG-TERM FACILITY MAINTENANCE REVENUE. SO MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT THE SCHOOLS COULD USE THOSE RESOURCES FOR SECURITY UPGRADES AND EQUIPMENT. ADDITIONAL PROTECTION FOR STUDENTS INCLUDED IN THE BILL IS AN UPDATED TEACHER CODE OF CONDUCT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT SEXUAL CONTACT WITH A STUDENT REGARDLESS OF THE STUDENTS AGE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. WE HAVE STRONGER BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT WOULD INCLUDE STATES OF ADJUDICATED PATIENT WITH AN UPDATE OF LIST OF CRIMINAL OFFENSES THAT DISQUALIFY INDIVIDUALS FROM RECEIVING AND EDUCATOR LICENSE. WE ALSO UPDATE OUR MANDATORY REPORTER LAWS TO REMOVE ANY QUESTION OR AMBIGUITY ON WHETHER OR NOT EDUCATOR LICENSING BOARDS AND THOSE ARE NOW HELD PELSB PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION AND STANDARDS FOR IN THE BOARD OF SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS ARE BOTH REQUIRED VERY EXPLICITLY TO PORT ALLEGATIO OF TH IS TROPE MISTREATMENT OF A MINOR. OTHER PROVISIONS INCLUDE A SPECIAL EDUCATION WORKING GROUP. WE ALIGNED THE STATE WORLD’S BEST WORKFORCE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM WITH A NEW ESSA PLAN. RECOMMENDATIONS ON INCLUDING INSTRUCTION TO PREVENT SEXUAL EXPLOITATION; SEXUAL ASSAULT SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND LOCALLY ADOPTED HEALTH STANDARDS AND ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS FOR STUDENT DATA. SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE GOVERNOR AND I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER IS HERE TODAY AND HER STAFF FOR THEIR VERY CONSTRUCTIVE INPUT. IT’S REALLY BEEN ADVISES ON MANY PROVISIONS ON THE BILL INTO THE MANY MEMBERS THAT CONTRIBUTE AND TO PROVISIONS CONTAINED IN HOUSE FILE 4320. WITH THAT MR. CHAIR I’LL BE HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: ALL RIGHT REPRESENTATIVE WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS BUT WE WILL TAKE SOME QUESTION REPRESENTATIVE HILSTROM.>>REPRESENTATIVE HILSTROM: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. REPRESENTATIVE LOON I SEE ON PAGE 81 OF THE BILL LINE 81.4 -LINE 81.6; DOES WANT TO DO THE BACKGROUND CHECK AND YOU DO A DISQUALIFICATION THAT YOU ARE ELIMINATING THE APPEAL PROCEDURE FOR TEACHERS TO HAVE. CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU ARE ELIMINATING THE APPEAL?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. LET ME MAKE SURE I GET THE RIGHT-81.4-81.6; CORRECT?>>REPRESENTATIVE HILSTROM: CORRECT>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: REPRESENTATIVE HILSTROM; AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS; FOR CERTAIN ITEMS IN A BACKGROUND CHECK THAT WOULD BE REVEALED IN CERTAIN THINGS UNDER CURRENT LAW WOULD DISQUALIFY SOMEONE FROM BEING A TEACHER AND ARE NOT SUBJECT TO AN APPEAL HEARING TO CERTAIN THINGS ARE SUBJECT TO APPEAL. IT COULD BE THE DESCRIPTION OF THE LICENSING BOARD BUT WHAT WE ARE EXTENDING IS ANYTHING THAT WOULD REALLY FALL UNDER MISTREATMENT OF A CHILD AND AGAIN IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 79 AND BEFORE THERE’S A LIST OF-ANY KIND OF CRIMINAL SEXUAL CONDUCT; THINGS LIKE THAT; THAT WOULD DISQUALIFY YOU AND SO IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT IF ONE OF THOSE OFFENSES HAS BEEN DONE BY SOMEONE APPLYING FOR A LICENSE; THEY WERE NOT RECEIVED A LICENSE OR THEY WOULD BE DISQUALIFIED FROM SERVING AS A TEACHER.>>REPRESENTATIVE HILSTROM: BUT I’M LOOKING LINE 80.24 THAT IS WHERE ANOTHER SECTION STARTS; ANY FELONY OR GROSS MISDEMEANOR INVOLVING A MINOR AND IT GOES ON A LITTLE BIT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THOSE PARTICULAR PIECES THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO APPEAL AS WELL?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR AND REPRESENTATIVE HILSTROM. THERE ARE SPECIFIC ITEMS LISTED THAT WOULD BE SORT OF MANDATORY REVOCATION OR REFUSAL TO ISSUE A LICENSE AND THERE WOULD BE OTHERS AND THAT WOULD BE DISCRETIONARY TO THE BOARD. SO THOSE ARE ALL DELINEATED IN THE BILL I DON’T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT A SPECIFIC TYPE?>>REPRESENTATIVE HILSTROM: IT WAS JUS T SPECIFICALLY STARTING 80.24; LIKE ANY FELONY. SO ANY THEFT OF PUBLIC PROPERTY IS A THEFT UNDER MINNESOTA LAW. SO IF YOU STEAL A STAPLER FROM HERE IT’S A FELONY. YOU GET PROSECUTED FOR IT. SO MY QUESTION MERELY WAS IS THIS FOR ANYTHING?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: . SO; YES; THIS ISSUE DID COME UP IN PUBLIC SAFETY WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE DE – 10 AMENDMENT COULD IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 79; LINE 2.4; 79.24; WE NARROWED IT TO EMBEZZLEMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS UNDER UNDER SECTION 609.54; CLAUSE 2; AND THAT WOULD DELINEATE THAT’S EMBEZZLEMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS OF $2500 OR MORE.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS.>>REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. I’M LOOKING AT THE SAFE SCHOOLS REVENUE IN I SEE YOUR FORMULAS BUT I HAVE NO CONTEXT. SO IF YOU COULD HELP US OUT AND DESCRIBE TO US WHAT THE NEED IS WHEN YOU’RE LOOKING AT ALL OUR SCHOOLS AND HOW MUCH OF THE NEED IS MET WITH THIS MONEY?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: WELL; IF YOU TALK ABOUT COOL SAFETY AND HOW WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT IN THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE; EDUCATION FINANCE COMMITTEE; IT IS REALLY A BROAD ENCOMPASSING TOPIC AND I TALK ABOUT IT OFTEN IS AN UMBRELLA. SO IT IS EVERYTHING FROM POSSIBLY PHYSICAL UPGRADES TO BUILD AND MAYBE SECURING ENTRANCES; MEDICATION SYSTEMS; SOME HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS; THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. PROBABLY; MORE OF THE NEED THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED IN WHAT WE’VE TRIED TO PROVIDE IN THE BILL THROUGH FUNDING AND FLEXIBILITY IS FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPORT STAFF. THE NEED FOR MORE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING HAS BEEN SUMMING SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR REALLY OFTEN AND NO MATTER WHERE I TRAVEL AND I VISITED A LOT OF SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR; WHETHER IT IS A SMALL SCHOOL IN THE ROLE LOCATION OR LARGE SUBURBAN OR URBAN DISTRICTS THEY ARE ALL EXPERIENCING MORE STUDENTS COMING TO SCHOOL WITH MAYBE MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES OR UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS. SO WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT SCHOOLS COULD USE FOR THAT. SO WE HAVE SCHOOL MENTAL HEALTH GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH SINCE I THINK THE MID-2000. THEY ARE AT ABOUT $11 A YEAR AND MOST OF FUNDING IS IN THE HHS BUDGET BUT WE ARE ADDING ANOTHER 5 MILLION A YEAR TO THAT AND THEN THE OTHER FUNDS;; THE SAFE SCHOOLS LEVY NOW BECOMING REVENUE IS A VERY FLEXIBLE STREAM OF FUNDING. IT COULD BE USED FOR BUILDING UPGRADES. IT COULD BE USED FOR ADDITIONAL COUNSELORS; SOCIAL WORKERS; SCHOOL NURSES; CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY GANG-RELATED TRYING TO P REVENT GANG-RELATED THINGS. IT’S A VERY FLEXIBLE STREAM OF FUNDING AND AGAIN EVERY SCHOOL IS GOING TO GET $18 ADDITIONAL PER PUPIL. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN DISTRICT RUNS AND WE DO HAVE THEM I DON’T KNOW FROM THE PACKETS OR NOT BUT I’LL BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU BY SCHOOL IF YOU’RE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT YOUR DISTRICT.>>REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS: FOLLOW-UP. I ACCEPT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN TERMS OF WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR AND I’M SURE I AGREE WITH YOU BUT THAT’S ON MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE COULD FUND AND SHOULD FUND THEN WHAT IS THE COST AND HOW DOES WHAT YOU’RE PUTTING IN THIS BILL FIT INTO THAT? I MEAN; ARE WE FUNDING 10% OF THE NEED; 2% ;; 50%? SINCE I DON’T KNOW THE BIG NUMBER I DON’T KNOW WHAT-HOW THIS MEANINGFUL THIS IS?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: WELL I THINK THAT’S A REALLY HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER. I THINK NO MATTER WHAT WE MIGHT PUT OUT IN FUNDS OR MAYBE SCHOOLS WHO FEEL THEY-THEY MAY STILL BE UNMET NEEDS AND WE FIND THAT OFTEN WITH A LOT OF THINGS WE FUND. I THINK THIS PACKAGE PUT FORWARD IN WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS BEING ONGOING-SO THEY’RE NOT ONE-TIME MONEY. IT’S FUNDED INTO THE DETAILS AND BEYOND THAT THIS WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT BOOST FOR SCHOOLS AND AGAIN; AS MANY OF THE M FEELING THEY NEED MORE SUPPORT SERVICES AND PERSONNEL TO ADDRESS CONCERNS OF STUDENTS AND THAT THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE MONEY THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT ; NOT JUST IN FISCAL YEAR 19; BUT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.>>REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS: I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REAL NEED IS OUT THERE. WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO UPGRADE THE BUILDINGS WHERE WE ALL-YOU GOT THE JOB DONE. THAT WOULD BE THE EASIER ONE TO DO. WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE THAT THE HARDER ONE IS HOW MUCH MORE WE SHOULD PUT IN SUPPORT STAFF BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME NUMBERS THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT WOULD HELP US OUT HERE. SO IN TERMSOF THE SUPPORT STAFF; I KNOW THAT STUDENTS ARE NOW BEING TRAINED FOR LOCKDOWNS DOES THIS MONEY GO FOR THE TRAINING; TOO?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS; THERE WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE SAFE SCHOOLS-SO THE ONGOING REVENUE PER PUPIL THAT ALL SCHOOLS WILL RECEIVE; THERE ARE GRANTS ALSO ENCOMPASSED IN OUR BILL THAT SCHOOLS CAN APPLY FOR. IT CAN HELP THEM WITH THE SCHOOL SAFETY CENTER; THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY CAME AND TESTIFIED THEY WORK WITH SCHOOLS EVERY YEAR THEY ARE REQUESTED TO COME IN AND HELP THEM TO AN AUDIT OF THEIR SAFETY PLAN TO MAYBE TALK WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR IMPROVEMENTS THEY MAY NEED. SO THERE ARE GRANTS FOR SCHOOLS TO APPLY FOR TO BE ABLE TO PUT MONEY TOWARDS THOSE AUDITS AND SCHOOL LIAISON OFFICERS; SOME SCHOOLS HAVE THEM SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD THEM WERE NOT SURE IF THEY WANT TO. THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO THIS REVENUE BUT WE ALSO PROVIDE MONIES SPECIFICALLY FOR TRAINING AND THIS WAS AN ISSUE RAISED BY REPRESENTATIVE DAVNIE AND REPRESENTATIVE WILLS TOGETHER IN OUR COMMITTEE THAT WHETHER OR NOT THESE OFFICERS- HHAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND BUT WORKING IN OUR SCHOOLS IS A LITTLE UNIQUE FROM WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY AND MAKING SURE THEY HA VE A AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THE TYPE OFTRAINING THAT WOULD HELP THEM TO DEAL WITH STUDENTS ON A DAILY BASIS. MAYBE KNOWING HOW TO WORK AND UNDERSTAND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW CHILDREN DEVELOP. MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS ;; WORKING WITH STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. THOSE KINDS OF CRITICAL ISSUES. WE ARE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR SCHOOLS AS WELL TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY’RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHETHER THEY NEED TO DO OR WHAT’S MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM AS THEY ARE PRIOR TO PRIORITIZING THEIR NEEDS.>>REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS: THIS IS THE FINAL THING. I HEAR WHAT YOU’RE TRYING TO DO AND I WOULD SUPPORT THE KINDS OF THINGS YOU’RE WORKING ON BUT I’VE NO CLUE FROM WHAT YOU HAVE SAID ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THE NEED WE AR E ADDRESSING.. SO I CAN GO BACK INTO MY PARENTS THAT; WELL; WE FIND IT 50% THIS YEAR OR 10% THIS YEAR AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER 10% NEXT YEAR. WE DO NEED TO KNOW THAT. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO MAKE OUR SCHOOLS THE PHYSICAL PARTS AND THE SUPPORT STAFF PART AND THE TRAINING PART. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF THESE BIG NUMBERS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO EVEN TALK ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON BECAUSE I DON’T WANT THE FOLKS [INAUDIBLE] MY PARENTS AND I DON’T WANT THAT SOMETHING GOOD IS HAPPENING AND I ALSO CONVERSELY; DON’T WANT TO NOT GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. SO WE ARE JUST MISSING A BIG PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE HERE.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: WELL; I THINK THAT BEST WAY TO RESPOND TO YOU IS TO SAY THAT AS PART OF THIS PACKAGE; WE ARE NOT PLACING MANDATES ON SCHOOL S ON TO WHERE SPECIFICALLY THEY NEED TO INVEST THESE FUNDS. AGAIN; WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMITTEE HEARINGS WITH PUBLIC TESTIMONY FROM SCHOOLS AND REPRESENTATIVE’S OF SCHOOLS AND EACH OF THEIR SAFETY PACKAGES MAY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT OPINION WITH A FEELS MOST IMPORTANT. SO I WOULD HESITATE TO EVEN TRY TO RESPOND TO THE SCHOOLS THAT YOU REPRESENT I DON’T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE DISCIPLINE I KNOW YOU’RE THE MINNEAPOLIS SCHOOL DISTRICT IN YOUR AREA. I THINK THEY WOULD BEST BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO HOW THEY WOULD INVEST THESE BUNNIES; HOW BEST THEY COULD USE THEM AND AGAIN IT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I REPRESENT OR MAYBE SOMETHING REPRESENTATIVE BAKER OR REPRESENTATIVE FABIAN’S ERROR. I THINK AGAIN THAT’S GOING TO BE A DISTRICT BY DISTRICT QUESTION HOW THEY’RE GOING TO INVEST IN THESE FUNDS. HOW FAR IT’S GOING TO GO TO ADDRESSING THE NEED BUT WE HAVE VERY POSITIVE TESTIMONY FROM SCHOOLS ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY INVOLVED IN THE RESOURCES INVOLVED THAT WE ARE PROVIDING IS PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE OUR SCHOOLS AND CHILDREN ARE SAFE.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE BAKER>>REPRESENTATIVE BAKER: MR. CHAIR AND CHAIR LOON GREAT JOB ON THE BILL. I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ADDING JAKE’S LAW AS THE OVERALL TRAINING I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD WORK ON THAT. I DID WORK WITH REPRESENTATIVE [INAUDIBLE] IN YOUR COMMITTEE COULD I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HAVING I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY COME ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RATING SYSTEM THAT’S GOING TO BE CHANGING I KNOW THAT IN MY DISTRICT I HAVE GOT THREE DISTRICT SCHOOLS AND VERY DIFFERENT DISTRICTS EVEN IN MY OWN COUNTY. ONE IS HIGH DIVERSITY. THEY HAVE STUDENTS THE GET DROPPED OFF IN MAY BE 8TH-9TH GRADE THAT IT NEVER SEEN THE INSIDE OF A SCHOOLROOM BEFORE. I HAVE GOT OTHERS THAT HAVE VERY LITTLE DIVERSITY .. STUDENTS OF COLOR AND SO ON. YET; BOTH ADMINISTRATIONS ARE HAVING SOME HEARTBURN ABOUT THE CHANGES. EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE HAVE GOT A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT’S MAYBE NOT REAL CLEAR TO UNDERSTAND; CAN YOU HELP ME MAYBE VISUALIZE WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND WILL SCHOOLS BE KIND OF COMPARED TO EACH OTHER BASED ON SOME RURAL SIMILARITIES VERSUS METRO WERE URBAN WILL THERE BE MORE KIND OF COMPONENTS OF HOW THEY CAN KIND OF COMPARE SCHOOLS AND IS THAT REALLY THE ULTIMATE GOAL SO PARENTS CAN DECIDE HOW SCHOOLS ARE RATED IN THAT AREA? IF YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION THERE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON:. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS AND I THINK IT WILL GIVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND MAYBE CONCERN IN THE BILL. SO WHEN I PRESENTED THE DE – AMENDMENT TO THE BILL IT CONTAINED WITH IN IT A STAR RATING SYSTEM. FOR SCHOOLS. IT WAS SORT OF PRESCRIBED HOW THAT SYSTEM WOULD WORK AND IT’S REALLY TO HAVE A SUMMATIVE RATING SYSTEM OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND 40; PLUS STATES; HAVE ENACTED ONE. SO THERE WAS CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT WHETHER STAR RATING WAS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. ARE WE USING THE RIGHT INDICATOR AND THAT; AND SO; WHEN I OFFERED AN AUTHOR AMENDMENT WHEN WE MARKED UP THE BILL LAST WEEK I DID TAKE THE STAR RATING SYSTEM OUT AND WHAT WE HAVE IN ITS PLACE INSTEAD IS SOME LANGUAGE THAT AS TH E COMMISSIONER TO DEVELOP A SUMMATIVE RATING SYSTEM AND SO THAT ARE INDICATORS WE WANT OUR ESSA PLAN AND NOT TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE WORLD’S BEST WORKFORCE BECAUSE SCHOOLS HAVE TOLD US A VERY CLEARLY GIVE US ONE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM TO DON’T GIVE US MULTIPLE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEMS OR KEEP CHANGING IT. THAT APARTMENT HAS SOME REALLY GOODFEEDBACK FOR US WHEN WE ROLLED OUT THE STAR RATING SYSTEM TO DO THAT. SO WE ARE BASICALLY ASKING A COMMISSIONER USING THE ACCOUNTABILITY INDICATORS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ACCEPTED THAT THE PLAN WILL BE DEVELOPED USING THOSE INDICATORS AND I COULD GO INTO THEM IF YOU WANT TO; BUT BASICALLY; WE ARE NOT SAYING WITH A PLAN SHOULD BE. GIVING MORE TIME TH E COMMISSIONER TO COME UP WITH THAT THE COMMISSION WILL BE ASKED TO SUBMIT SORT OF THEIR DRAFT OF THAT TO THE LEGISLATURE PHENOMENA SAY EARLY FEBRUARY OF PHENOMENA SAY EARLY FEBRUARY 2020 AND THEN THE SYSTEM WOULD GO INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1 OF 2020 WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME FOR THAT TO PLAY OUT AND I THINK WE WERE LISTENING TO SCHOOLS AND CONCERNS ABOUT MAYBE HOW WE HAD DEVELOPED THAT SPECIFIC SUMMATIVE RATING SYSTEM SO I STILL THINK IT’S A GOOD IDEA BUT WE WILL LET THAT BE WORKED ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: OKAY; MEMBERS SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT TH IS TIME HAVING TO GIVE A QUESTION NOW REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING. I’M SORRY. REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING.>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR IT ON A DIFFERENT TOPIC. SPEECH ABOUT OKAY; GO AHEAD AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS AND THEN COME BACK BUT GO AHEAD IF YOU WANT TO>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: I COULD WAKE AND I DON’T THINK ANY AMENDMENTS ADDRESS THIS BUT REPRESENTATIVE LOON I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REQUIRED OVERLAY STUDY OFFICE OF THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR. I’VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE HERE AND I’VE NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH DOING SUCH A STUDY BUT MY PROBLEM IS WITH THE PROCEDURE IN A BRING THIS UP ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT IN DIFFERENT SUBJECT AREAS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW THERE IS A LEGISLATIVE AUDIT COMMISSION AND THERE-I AM ON IT. THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE USE HERE TO DECIDE WHAT TOPICS THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR WILL STUDY. YOU KNOW; THEY’RE VERY IMPORTANT RESOURCES FOR US AS A LEGISLATURE AND THE LEGISLATIVE AUDIT COMMISSION IS A BIPARTISAN BICAMERAL ORGANIZATION; COMMISSION AND THE WAY THE TOPICS ARE SELECTED GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY MEMBER TO PARTICIPATE IN DECIDING. SO ALL OF US; EVERY MEMBER OF THIS LEGISLATURE GETS AN EQUAL CHANCE TO DECIDE HOW TO USE THAT LIMITED RESOURCE. YET; VERY OFTEN WE SEE BILLS THAT CONTAIN WHERE THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR IS BEING DIRECTED TO STUDY THIS AND STUDY THAT; REALLY KIND OF SKIPPING THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE. SO I GUESS I WANTED TO JUST ASK YOU TO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT. I ASSUME YOU HAVE TALKED TO THE AUDITOR ABOUT THIS AND THEY HAVE SAID THEY COULD DO THE STUDY BUT WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION IN THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE ABOUT DOING THIS KIND OF SKIPPING THE OLA PROCESS ? I KNOW YOU’VE GOT AN APPROPRIATION IN HERE WHICH IS GREAT. I MEAN I’M GLAD YOU’RE DOING THAT YOU ARE ADDING RESOURCES; NOT ASKING THEM TO USE EXISTING RESOURCES; BUT NEVERTHELESS; THEY ONLY HAVE SONY PERSONNEL. THEY ONLY HAVE SO MUCH TIME. SO I’M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: YES; WE DID TALK WITH A LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR’S OFFICE QUITE EXTENSIVELY IN FACT. I INTRODUCED HER AS A STAND-ALONE BILL. IT WAS HEARD IN STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE IN WHICH CASE WE AMENDED THE LANGUAGE OF THE BILL REALLY; THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR HELPED US CRAFT THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE TOPIC IN EDUCATION FINANCE I THINK THERE WERE ALSO CONCERNED TO GO IN AND BASICALLY DO AN ANALYSIS OF EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND THE TOPIC HAS TO DO WITH TRANSPARENCY OF FUNDS AND HOW FUNDS THAT WE APPROPRIATE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE SPENT REALLY AT EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL SITE WITHIN THAT DISTRICT;; AND SO; ANYWAY; THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR OFFICE HAS BEEN SORT OF BROUGHT INTO THE PROCESS AND HAS BEEN WORKING WI TH US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY ON THE IDEA. THE IDEA CAME TO US FROM A GROUP OF EDUCATORS; EDUCATORS FOR EXCELLENCE IS WHAT THEY CALL THEMSELVES; BUT IT’S A GROUP OF TEACHERS AND THEIR CONCERN IS THAT WE PROVIDE STREAMS OF FUNDING FOR STUDENTS BASED ON CERTAIN CRITERIA THEY NEED. SO IF THEY QUALIFY FOR FREE AND REDUCED PRICE LUNCH THERE SEE WHAT’S KNOWN AS COMPENSATORY REVENUE. FOR THOSE STUDENTS THAT THEY MAY NEED MORE SUBDUED IN SUPPORT MORE RESOURCE TO HELP PAY FOR THAT. BUT THERE’S A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES ARE ACTUALLY TEACHING THE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL BUILDING WHERE THE STUDENTS ARE BETTER GENERATING THAT REVENUE. SO; ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ESSA THE FEDERAL LAW IS A FINANCIAL REPORTING OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL BUILDINGS OF THEIR FUNDS. STATE LOCAL AND MAYBE PHILANTHROPIC FUNDS IN THAT. SO WE DON’T KNOW EXACTLY IF; RIGHT NOW; IT IS OUR BELIEF THAT MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHEN THE REPORT THINGS SUCH AS TEACHER SALARIES THEY MAY BE TAKING THE TOTAL COST OF SALARIES AND FOR ALL TEACHERS ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND DIVIDING IT BY THE NUMBER OF TEACHERS AND REPORTED THAT FOR EACH BUILDING. BUT THAT MAY NOT BE WITH THE TEACHER SALARY IS FOR A PARTICULAR SCHOOL BUILDING IN A DISTRICT. THOSE THINGS CAN TEL L YOU-CAN PROVIDE SOME VALUABLE INFORMATION. YOU MAY HAVE CERTAIN SCHOOLS WITHIN A LARGE DISTRICT WE ARE TEACHERS THAT HAVE A LOT LESS SENIORITY AND MAYBE ARE PAID SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAT MORE SENIOR TEACHERS AND OTHER BUILDINGS WHETHER ALL SORT OF GROUP IN ONE PARTICULAR BUILDING OR BUILDINGS WITHIN A DISTRICT. SO THIS IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO HAVE AN REALLY ENABLE TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL THIS REQUIREMENT THAT’S ON THE ESSA I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT WE KNOW CURRENTLY HOW SCHOOLS ARE REPORTING THIS INFORMATION AND WHAT THEY MAY NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO DO TO FULFILL THE ESSA REQUIREMENT ON THE ROAD.>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE LOON. I DON’T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU’VE JUST DESCRIBED. THAT MAY BE JUST FINE. I JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SPEAK UP FOR ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE HERE AT TH E LEGISLATURE WE HAVE AN AUDIT COMMISSION. WE HAVE A WAY FOR MEMBERS AND IT MAY BE THIS IS A VERY VERY IMPORTANT STUDY AND HAD IT BEEN PART OF THE RECOMMENDED OLA TOPICS THAT IT MIGHT HAVE GONE RIGHT TO THE TOP I DON’T KNOW. I’M NOT DEBATING THAT AT ALL BUT I DO THINK THAT THE PROCESS THAT’S BEEN SET OUT FOR RIGHT NOW TO DECIDE THE TOPICS FOR THE AUDITOR IS ONE THAT IS A VERY DEMOCRATIC PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS BIPARTISAN AND BICAMERAL AND EVERY MEMBER GETS TO SUGGEST AND VOTE ON THE TOPICS AND SO ON. BUT WHEN YOU PUT IT IN A BILL LIKE THIS AND UNFORTUNATELY; AS WE HAVE SEEN OVER AT LEAST ON OBSERVING OVER MY TIME HERE THAT THE LEGISLATURE ITSELF IS BECOMING LESS AND LE SS DEMOCRATIC AND IT’S MORE AND MORE IT’S DONE AND DECIDE BY FEWER AND FEWER PEOPLE AND THE TOPICS THAT THE AUDIT COMMISSION CHOOSES FROM THE MEMBER RECOMMENDATIONS; IT’S ONE OF THE FEW PROCESSES WERE EVERYBODY GETS REALLY HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IMPORTANT TOPICS TO THE FOREFRONT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMENTS BECAUSEYOU MAY HAVE THE BEST STUDY IN THE WORLD HERE I’M NOT DEBATING THAT BUT I JUST REALLY HATE TO SEE US JUST THROW OUT–WERE NOT THROWING IT OUT. I DON’T WANT TO OVERSTATE IT THE LEGISLATIVE AUDIT PROCESS IS STILL THERE BUT IT SKIPS A LINE. THAT’S MY CONCERN HERE THAT WE HAVE THIS PROCESS AND WE SHOULD USE IT. IT INVOLVES MAYBE ENLISTING OTHER MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR A TOPIC THAT YOU PUT FORWARD BUT PUTTING IT IN A BILL LIKE THIS I THINK TAKES A WAY THAT MEMBER ABILITY TO DECIDE WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE FOR THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR. THANKS MR. CHAIR.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: ANY COMMENT BE REPRESENTED.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: JUST REALLY BRIEFLY MR. CHAIR AND REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. I ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THE PROCESS THAT LEGISLATORS GO THROUGH TO TRY TO NARROW DOWN CAUGHT TOPICS AND VOTING BUT WE DO ALSO CALL THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR’S OFFICE TO DO THINGS IN ADDITION TO THAT WHEN THERE’S SOME URGENCY TO THEM I THINK THEY WORK WITH A LEGISLATURE ON MNLARS AND SOME OTHER THINGS SO I MEAN THIS REPORTING OF DATA AND THAT’S FINANCIAL DATA BY SCHOOL BUILDING IS AS REQUIRED UNDER THE FEDERAL ESSA LOT IS GOING TO MAKE SOME DIFFERENCES FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE CALCULATING THE IR FUNDING AND REPORTING THAT. SO I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT REQUIREMENT IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THIS BUT I DON’T TAKE LIGHTLY WHAT YOU SAID. LETTING THE REGULAR PROCESS PLAY OUT BUT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A REAL SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH REACHING COMPLIANCE WITH THAT FINANCIAL REPORTING REQUIREMENT THAT THE FEDERAL ESSA LOT REQUIRES IF WE DO NOT HAVE THIS INFORMATION.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON>>REPRESENTATIVE CAR LSON: YES; MR. CHAIRMAN I WOULD LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM REPRESENTATIVE LOON ABOUT THE RATING SYSTEM. KIND OF PICKING UP WITH REPRESENTATIVE BAKER COMMENTED ABOUT DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE LEVELS OF STUDENTS WHEN THEY COME IN AND I WAS WONDERING HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS THIS RATING SYSTEM IS BEING DEVELOPED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ED THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE OF SOME OF THAT IN THE NORTHERN SUBURBS OF HENNEPIN COUNTY MAYBE SPILLING OVER INTO SPEED ANOKA COUNTY. FOR EXAMPLE; A FEW YEARS AGO THERE WAS A LARGE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WH O IMMIGRATED FROM A COUNTRY WHERE THE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR EIGHT YEARS. WELL; DEPENDING ON HOW YOU HANDLE THAT COMING OUT WITH A SINGLE RATING SYSTEM I DO KNOW FOR MY OWN TEACHING EXPERIENCE DIFFERENT POPULATION GROUPS AT THE TIME WE HAD STUDENTS THE CAYMAN JUST LIKE MR. BAKER WAS DESCRIBING THAT I NEVER BEEN IN A CLASSROOM BEFORE AND THEY WERE OFTEN OF JUNIOR HIGH OR MAYBE EVEN SENIOR HIGH IN AGE. THE BILL IN THAT HAPPENED TO TEACH AND-AND THIS IS TRUE IN A LOT OF OUR SUBURBAN DISTRICTS- A LOT OF EOL STUDENTS AS WELL. WHEN I WAS STILL ACTUALLY TEACHING I WORKED IN A BUILDING 30-40% OF OUR STUDENTS FOR EOL. I HAPPEN TO A BEEN A MAINSTREAM TEACHER BUT MY POINT IS; HOW WILL THE DEPARTMENT OF ED COME UP WITH A SINGLE RATING SYSTEM CANNOT BE ABLE TO JUDGE SCHOOLS BASED ON CRITERIA THAT WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT YOU MAY HAVE SOME CHALLENGING SITUATIONS DUE TO THE HISTORY OF THE STUDENTS; ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE GETTING LARGE NUMBERS THAT MIGHT BE FOISTED ON THE OUTCOMES OF ANY GIVEN CRITERIA THAT YOU MIGHT BE USING TO RATE THE SCHOOL? LONG QUESTION BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY THE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING THOSE KINDS OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SCHOOLS AND POPULATION GROUPS THEY MIGHT BE SERVING?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: SO RIGHT NOW; THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL AGAIN ASKS THE COMMISSION ON THE DEPARTMENT TO CRAFT A SUMMATIVE RATING SYSTEM FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND BASED UPON THE STATE ESSA GOALS AND THESE ARE THE GOALS ESTABLISHED IN THE ESSA PLAN SUBMITTED BY THE COMMISSIONER AND ACCEPTED BY THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION; AND THERE ARE FIVE ACCOUNTABILITY INDICATORS THAT ARE PART OF THAT. SO I WILL GO THROUGH THESE REALLY QUICKLY BUT-THOSE INDICATORS ARE KEY TO THE GOALS IN THAT PLAN. SO THE GOALS ARE READING AND MATH ACHIEVEMENT AT A RATE OF 90 WITH NO STUDENT GROUP BELOW 85 BY THE YEAR 2025. THIRD GRADE READING ACHIEVEMENT RATE OF 90 WITH NO STUDENT GROUP NO STUDENT GROUP BELOW 85 X 20 25. EIGHTH-GRADE MATH ACHIEVEMENT RATING 90 AND THE REST IS THE SAME. ENGLISH LANGUAGE PROFICIENCY OF 85% OF ENGLISH-LANGUAGE LEARNERS MAKING PROGRESS IN ACHIEVING PROFICIENCY BY 2025. FOR YOUR GRADUATION RATE OF 90% WITH NO STUDENT GROUP BELOW 85% BY YEAR 2020 AND CONSISTENT ATTENDANCE RATE OF 95%. NO STUDENT GROUP BELOW 90. THE FIFTH INDICATOR WAS ONE THAT THE DEPARTMENT COULD CHOOSE AND IT IS ONE WOULD AGAIN HAVE FLEXIBILITY AS WELL. IT’S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY MAY DECIDE OVER TIME THAT’S NOT ONE OF THE QUALITIES IT’S CALLED SCHOOL QUALITY AND STUDENT SUCCESS INDICATOR. THEY MAY CHOOSE NOT TO USE A CALENDAR IN THE MAY DECIDE THERE’S A MOTHER INDICATOR THAT WOULD BE A BETTER MEASUREMENT OF SCHOOL QUALITY STUDENT SUCCESS. SO AGAIN WE ARE TRYING TO OFFER MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO THE DEPARTMENT AS LONG AS IT’S KEY TO THE GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND IN OUR ESSA PLAN AND THAT THE SYSTEM IS KEY TO THAT. SO OUTSIDE OF THAT THE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF DEVELOPING THE PLAN AS THEY SEE FIT.>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: THAT’S WHAT I’M CONCERNED ABOUT; IS THE FLEXIBILITY REPRESENTATIVE LOON WHEN YOU SAY THOSE PERCENTAGES;IF A SCHOOL SITE OR A SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A LARGE CONCENTRATION FOR EXAMPLE OF ENGLISH-LANGUAGE LEARNERS IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THOSE PERCENTAGES. IT’S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE. THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A CIVIL WAR. I WAS IN A RATHER INTERESTING SITUATION BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN NO EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT COUNTRY FOR EIGHT SOLID YEARS. SO HOW YOU MEASURE THOSE KINDS OF DIFFERENCES IN SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF STUDENTS FROM THE COUNTRY I AM THINKING OF CAME INTO THE NORTH SUBURBS; THERE’S A TENDENCY SOMETIMES FOR GROUPS TO CONGREGATE IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA. SO THEN YOU HAVE LARGE CONCENTRATIONS AT A GIVEN SCHOOL SITE AND HOW THAT SCHOOL WOULD BE RANKED UNDE R THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. THERE MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THAT CONCERN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HOPEFULLY THE DEPARTMENT AS THEY GO THROUGH A SINGLE RATING SYSTEM WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES INTO ACCOUNT. THANK YOU.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE TENANT>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON I THINK YOU’RE ECHOING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT BEEN RAISED AND THAT’S WHAT WE OFFER THE FLEXIBILITY BY TAKING THE SPECIFIC STAR RATING SYSTEM WITH SORT OF DELINEATING WHAT AND HOW THINGS HAD TO BE MEASURED. THERE IS WITHIN THIS MEASUREMENT FOR STUDENT GROWTH. SO DISTRICTS THAT ARE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARD THAT GROWTH IS GOING TO BE NOTED AND DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF THE SCHOOL POPULATIONS WILL ALSO BE PART OF THAT DASHBOARD I WOULD IMAGINE AS WELL. I THINK THERE WILL BE AMPLE INFORMATION FOR PARENTS TO RECOGNIZE THOSE DIFFERENCES AMONG SCHOOL DISTRICTS.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: ALL RIGHT MEMBERS NOT SEEN ANY DISCUSSION AT THE MOMENT I THINK WE CAN TURN TO AMENDMENTS. THERE WILL BE SOME TESTIMONY COMING UP AND I’M SURE FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE A – 29 AMENDMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO A AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT WHICH HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY STAFF TO BE ADDED; WHICH IS PAGE 12 AFTER LINE 10; INSERT-THIS IS A ONE-TIME APPROPRIATION. THAT ONE-TIME APPROPRIATION APPLIES TO THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR APPROPRIATION SO JUST MAKING THAT CLEAR THAT APPROPRIATION DOESN’T CONTINU E INDEFINITELY. SO IS THERE DISCUSSION FOR THE A – 29 AMENDMENT WITH THE INCORPORATION? THE REST OF IT IS BASICALLY A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE’S SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS ANOTHER BILL THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DOUBLE APPROPRIATE. REPRESENTATIVE GENTLEMEN>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: IT REALLY IS A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT SO I WOULD SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BE FAVOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED; NAY. TH E MOTION PREVAILS. THE A – 29 AMENDMENTTHE ADDITIONAL CORPORATION IS ADOPTED.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: NEXT I HAVE A – AND 32 AMENDMENT IS THAT REPRESENTATIVE MARK WHAT’S THE AMENDMENT>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: I WOULD MOVE THE A – 32 AMENDMENT>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART WAS THE A – 32 AMENDMENT IT COULD YOU DESCRIBE THE AMENDMENT.>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. IN ARTICLE 5 OF THE BILL PAGE 120 IS SOMETHING CALLED A SPECIAL EDUCATION EQUITY AID THAT WAS AMENDED INTO THE BILL LAST WEEK IN EDUCATION FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ASHLEY WAS A BILL AUTHORED BY THE CHAIR; REPRESENTATIVE KNOBLACH AND VERY BRIEFLY WHAT DOES IT DEALS WITH CROSS SUBSIDY OF OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PART AND WHAT A CROSS SUBSIDY IS;; SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE MANDATED BY STATE AND FEDERAL LAW TO PROVIDE AN EDUCATION TO STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS. THEY ARE MANDATED TO DO THAT. BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT LIVING UP TO THEIR PROMISE IN THE STATE HASN’T EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE ONLY PLAY-ONE OF THE ONLY TWO [INAUDIBLE] IN THE PROGRAM IN OUR FINANCES IT’S NOT KEEPING UP. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE SCHOOLS HAVE THESE COST FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION WITH THE REVENUES ARE LESS AND SO WITH THE SCHOOLS HAVE TO DO BECAUSE THEY ARE MANDATED TO RECOVER THOSE COSTS THEY TAKE MONEY FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE SCHOOL WHICH IS BASICALLY OTHER EDUCATIONAL AREAS WITHIN THE SCHOOL. THAT’S CALLED THE CROSS SUBSIDY. SO WITH THE PROVISION IN THE BILL DOES IS LOOKS AT TRYING TO CREATE MORE PARITY. SO IT CREATES TWO SEPARATE REGIONS A METRO REGION IN A RURAL REGION; AND THE METRO IS ALL METRO SCHOOLS; PLUS ALL RURAL SCHOOLS OVER 7500 AND THEN LOOKS AT AN AVERAGE IN EACH ONE THOSE AREAS IN THE METRO AREAS ARE $1064 PER STUDENT ACROSS SUBSIDY IN THE RURAL IS $835. SO DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE AT IT THEN LOOKS AT HOW FAR ARE YOU AWAY FROM THAT AVERAGE IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WILL RECEIVE IS THE LESSER OF $120 PER PUPIL FOR 30% OF THAT DIFFERENCE IN THE CROSS SUBSIDY. SO IT’S ACTUALLY GOOD WAY -THERE’S ABOUT $20 MILLION A YEAR. SO WHAT HAPPENED IS ONCE [INAUDIBLE] TO BEGIN IN 2020 IN THE TALES AND IN THE DARK OF THE AFTERNOON [LAUGHING] IT WAS STILL THE AFTERNOON MME. CHAIR; SO THE 2020 WAS CHANGED TO A AMENDMENT TO 2022. SO THIS WOULD MOVE IT BACK TO 2020. AND START-IS EVERY YEAR WE WAIT WAIT FRANKLY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND WE ALL KNOW THIS; THEY HAVE TO TAKE THESE FU NDS AWAY AND IT LEADS TO AN INCREASE IN CLASSROOM SIZE. THE SOONER THE BETTER I THINK IT’S A GOOD IDEA SO THAT THE AMENDMENT MR. CHAIR.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: LET ME FIRST SAY SINCE IT IS MY BILL I LIKE THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO HERE BUT THE CONCERN I HAVE IS WHEN I LOOK AT THE TALES WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT MY NUMBER I SAID WELL; THE TALES WE HAVE LEFT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE LEFT TO SPEND IN 2020-21 IS ACCORDING TO MY CALCULATION ONLY 9;000;007 $13;000 AND YET THIS COST $40 MILLION. THEN I LOOKED IN THE SPREADSHEET; MR. MARX HAD SHOWED THAT FOR OTHE R BILLS ACTUALLY THE TALES ABOUT WE HAD LEFT WAS 120 30 123;270;000 YOUR SO ASKED MYSELF WHY AM I OFF SO FAR IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I GUESS I’VE BEEN ASSUMING ALL ALONG THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THE PENSION BILL AND THE PENSION BILL COSTS $113 MILLION IN 2020-21. SO IF WE ADOPT YOUR AMENDMENT REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART WE ARE GOING TO BE SHORT $30 MILLION FOR THE PENSION BILL AND THE ONLY PENSION AREA; ONLY PENSION PLAN THAT I THINK WE SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON IN THE PENSION BILL AND THERE’S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PENS THAT ARE GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND MSR S; POLICE AND FIRE AND SO FORTH; BUT THE BIGGEST ONE AND THE ONLY ONE THAT WE ARE SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY ON IS TRA; TEACHERS RETIREMENT ASSOCIATION. SO IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THE MARQUART AMENDMENT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE THE TEACHERS AND THE TEACHERS RETIREMENT ASSOCIATION THE MONEY THAT WE WERE COME I THINK PLANNING ON GIVING THEM IN THE PENSION BILL. SO MY PLAN REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART I CERTAINLY LIKE MY PLAN BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TEACHERS SO I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO BE AGAINST YOUR AMENDMENT.>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. IF I MAY; THERE’S NO BUDGET RESOLUTION AS YOU KNOW FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND YOU ARE TALKING STILL ABOUT A BUDGET WHICH IS $46 BILLION. SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE THE PENSION OR ANY OTHER BILL. IT COULD COME FROM ANYWHERE IN IT ALSO COULD ALTHOUGH BE ONE TIME YOU COULD TAKE 2% OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE THE 2 BILLION ROUGH FIGURED IT WOULD BE ABOUT 2% AND MIGHT BE OTHER WAYS TO DO THIS BUT MR. CHAIR; YOU HAD A FINE PIECE OF LEGISLATION HERE AND I JUST THINK IT’S WORTHWHILE TO TAKE A LOOK AT MOVING IT UP EVEN QUICKER.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE FABIAN>>REPRESENTATIVE FABIAN: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. I’M CURIOUS IF THIS IMPACTS LITTLE JOHNNY? [LAUGHING] [INAUDIBILE / OFF MIC]>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: OF COURSE THIS IMPACTS LITTLE JOHNNY. OF COURSE.>>REPRESENTATIVE FABIAN: AND WONDERING IN THE DARK OF THAT AFTERNOON WHAT [INAUDIBLE]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: I GUESS THAT’S A RHETORICAL QUESTION AND OTHER DISCUSSION TO THE AMENDMENT? ALL RIGHT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED; NAY. THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED.>>[GAVELL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: NEXT AMENDMENT THE A – 34 AMENDMENT.>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: I LIKE TO MOVE THE A – 34 AMENDMENT>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: TO THE A – 34 AMENDMENT REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: LAST YEAR IN A BIPARTISAN FASHION THERE WAS PUT INTO EDUCATION BILL $50 MILLION FOR VOLUNTARY PK EDUCATION OR SCHOOL READINESS. IT WAS ONE TIME FOR TWO YEARS AND SO ABOUT 15 A PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THAT’S ABOUT 4000 STUDENTS GOT INTO THIS PROGRAM BUT IT STARTED THIS YEAR AND IT WILL GO IN THE YEAR 18-19.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: 18-19?>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: IT’LL GO INTO 18-19 SCHOOL YEAR; NEXT YEAR. WHAT DID I SAY? [INAUDIBILE / OFF MIC]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: GO AHEAD REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: 18-19 BUDGET YEAR AT ANY RATE. SO MOVING FORW ARD IT WOULD BE THE 19-20 SCHOOL YEAR THERE WOULD BE NO FUNDING AND THE AND 59 SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH 4000 SCHOOLS WITH THE SCHOOL READINESS PROGRAM OR VOLUNTARY PK IT WOULD END PRE-K IT WOULD AND LIKE RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT’S THE TIMING ISSUE? WELL THE TIMING ISSUE USUALLY DON’T HAVE AN EDUCATION FINANCE BILL UNTIL MAY OF THE YEAR. SO NEXT YEAR WOULD BE MAY 2019. SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE TO PLAN AND SENT OUT NOTICES AS FAR AS STAFF BY APRIL. SO EVEN THOUGH IN MIGHT BE ANOTHER YEAR ; IN REALITY BECAUSE OF KIND OF HOW WE DO THINGS HERE WE ALMOST HAVE TO ACT NOW. SO THIS BILL WOULD BE IT WOULD BE $50 MILLION OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS BUT BASICALLY WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THESE 39 SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE HAD THI S PROGRAM IS IT’S GOING TO BE CUT OFF THE SOMETHING IS DONE. THOUGH IT CAN BE EXTENDED BUT I THINK WE SHOULD EXTEND IT THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE TIMING ISSUE COMING FORWARD. ON THIS ONE MR. CHAIR I LIKE TO ASK FOR A ROLLCALL.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE LOON>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR WE’VE A SIMILAR AMENDMENT IN COMMITTEE I THINK THIS BABY WAS EVEN DISCUSSED MAYBE WHEN WE DID BUDGET TARGET. I DON’T REMEMBER FOR SURE BUT COMMENTED ON THIS PUBLICLY AND I WILLREITERATE MY COMMENTS. WE FUND ED THE EXTENSION OF THE PROGRAM AND ACTUALLY SCHOOL READINESS [INAUDIBLE] NEW PROGRAM AND WE DID IT FOR ONE BUDGET CYCLE. WHICH MEANS THAT BASICALLY THE MINNESOTA BUDGET IS DISCUSSED AND DEBATED WILL BE A TOPIC FOR NEXT LEGISLATURE AND COMMITTEE EDUCATION FINANCE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER. THE SCHOOLS ARE ABLE TO PUT THEIR PROGRAMS TOGETHER WITH THIS MONEY PRETTY QUICKLY AND THEY CAN ADJUST BUT AGAIN; WE HAVE BEEN A VERY STRONG PARTNER WITH THE GOVERNOR IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING QUALITY EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS AND MY STRONG DESIRE TO SEE THEM TARGETED TO CHILDREN WHO NEED IT MOST FOR THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT OF THOSE CHILDREN TO CLOSE THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP. BUT NOTHING IS GOING TO END PREMATURELY. THE FALL SCHOOL YEAR THAT WILL START THAT WILL START IN SEPTEMBER 2018 WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS FUNDING AND AGAIN IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DETERMINED NEXT YEAR. WE DO HAVE I BEEN MISS A REGULAR PROCESS REPRESENTATIVE GENEVIEVE THE ROAD LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR’S REPORT THAT’S GOING TO BE RELEASED AT THE END OF THIS WEEK ON EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS AND SO I THINK IT’S CAN BE SOME IMPORTANT INFORMATION AS WELL FOR THE LEGISLATOR AS WE REALLY DEVELOPED MULTIPLE FUNDING STREAMS SOURCE STARTING WITH SCHOLARSHIPS AND NOW WE’VE GOT VOLUNTARY PRESCHOOL AND WE’VE GOT SCHOOL READINESS AND WE ALSO FUND HEADSTART AND CCAP IS OUT THERE AS WELL. I DON’T THINK IT IS AT ALL HARMFUL TO WAIT ON THIS UNTIL NEXT YEAR.>>CHAI R KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART I GUESS YOU REALLY DON’T LIKE THOSE RETIRED TEACHERS; DO YOU BECAUSE YOUR LAST AMENDMENT AND $40 MILLION THAT WE NEEDED FOR THE TEACHERS RETIREMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE AMENDMENT TAKES $50 MILLION THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED. I MEAN I GUESS THERE’S NOTHING IN THIS LANE WHICH ABOUT TAKING OFF THE BUDGET RESERVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MEMBERS; YES; WE DON’T SET A FORMAL BUDGET TARGET FOR THE SO-CALLED TALES; THE TWO YEARS THAT ARE OUT BUT WE DO GET A BUDGET FORECAST FOR IT. THE NUMBERS DO NEED TO ADD UP. WE GET GREAT CRITICISM WHEN WE DON’T LEAVE AT LEAST A FEW MILLION DOLLARS SEVERAL MI LLION DOLLARS USUALLY ON THE BOTTOM LINE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ALMOST $10 MILLION LEFT OVER IF WE DO THE FULL PENSION PLAN SO I FELT THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR ANY LITTLE MATTERS THAT SHOW UP. IT SEEMS LIKE NORMALLY THE GOVERNOR HAS CRITICIZE US WHEN WE GET MUCH BELOW $10 MILLION IN TERM OF MONEY LEFT ON THE BOTTOM LINE FOR TALES SO NOW HERE WE’RE GOING TO BE 40 MILLION IN THE WHOLE AND THE ONLY PLACE TO REALLY GET THAT MONEY AND THUS YOU’RE GOING TO CUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PENSION FUNDS I GUESS YOU COULD KEEP THE TEACHER RETIREMENT COME AND CUT POLICE AND FIRE AND OTHER ATTENTION FUNDS TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY BUT THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE TO GET THAT MONEY IN THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE. SO MEMBERS COME I GUESS AS YOU ARE VOTING I HOPE YOU WOULD THINK ABOUT THAT REPRESENTATIVE HILSTROM BEALS THAN K YOU; MR. CHAIR I JUST WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXCEPTION WITH YOUR COMMENTS THAT YOU COULD ONLY GET THE MONEY UP FROM THE TEACHERS PENSION BECAUSE MR. CHAIR; I THINK THAT YOU’VE ALLOCATED AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY FROM CORPORATE TAX CUTS AND COULD ACTUALLY PRIORITIZE OUR STUDENTS INSTEAD OF CORPORATIONS.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: OTHER DISCUSSION? REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN AS A FOLLOW-UP I WAS GONNA SAY MUCH THE SAME THING WITHOUT NECESSARILY FOCUSING ON A GIVEN BILL BUT THERE ARE DOLLARS ON THE TABLE THAT COULD BE USED DIFFERENTLY. YOU ARE CHOOSING TO TAKE A LOOK AT ONE SLICE OF THE PIE. IF YOU REMEMBER THE DEBATE WE HAD THE OTHER NIGHT ABOUT THE RETURNING OF 75 MILLION INTO THE RESERVE; THOSE DOLLARS ARE SITTING THERE IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE SET ASIDE FOR OTHER BILLS. NOW WE DID HAVE A DEBATE AS TO WHETHER THAT WAS REBUILDING THE RESERVE OR NOT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU LOOK AT THAT BUT MY ONLY POINT IS HIS OTHER DOLLARS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE THAT COULD BE USED DIFFERENTLY AND THAT WOULD BE AN OBVIOUS ONE THAT COULD BE USED TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE FUNDING. WE HAVE A DEBATE THE OTHER NIGHT BUT IT WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU; MR. CHAIRMAN AND WHEN I WAS IN THAT SEAT WE BROUGHT THE BUDGET RESOLUTION ON AMENDED IT AS WELL.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: ON THE BUDGET RESERVE; THOUGH I HAVE TO SAY I THINK THE ONLY TIME I CAN RECALL OTHER THAN A SERIOUS RECESSION OR SHORTFALL THAT WE’VE TAKEN MONEY OVER THE BUDGET RESERVE WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. IT WAS LAST YEAR WHERE WE GAVE A ONE-TIME REBATE TO PEOPLE WITH THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE MONEY IN THE BUDGET RESERVE IS A SAVINGS ACCOUNT IT’S A ONE-TIME BLOCK OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE GOT BUT THIS PROPOSAL IS TO DO ONGOING MONEY TO DO 25 MILLION A YEAR INTO INFINITY. IT JUST NOT VERY GOOD BUDGETING TO TAKE YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND THEN INCREASE YOUR MORTGAGE PAYMENT AND JUST FIGURE THAT WITHOUT ANY OTHER INCOME COMING IN YOU SOMEHOW WILL HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN PERPETUITY TO PAY FOR YOUR MORTGAGE PAYMENT. YOU DON’T WANT TO COME I THINK TAKE ONE TIME MONEY AND OBLIGATE YOURSELF TO PERMANENT SPENDING. I GUESS WITH ALL RESPECT REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON; I JUST DON’T THINK IT’S A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE BUDGET RESERVE OR ONGOING SPAWNING UNLESS YOU’RE IN A DESPERATE SITUATION AND TRYING TO DEAL WITH A BUDGET SHORTFALL.>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: MR. CHAIRMAN IF I MAY I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THERE’S OTHER POTENTIAL SOURCES WHEN I MENTION THAT ONE IT’S MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN BY THE CURRENT MAJORITY FROM THE BUDGET RESERVE AND IT WAS MONEY THAT WAS LEFT OVER IN HEALTHCARE ACCESS FUND COST OR NOT THE ACCESS FUND BUT THE HEALTHCARE [INAUDIBLE] BUT THAT IS 75 MILLION WAS SITTING THERE. YES; YOU ARE CORRECT AT ONE TIME MONEY BUT IT’S NOT MONEY THAT’S CURRENTLY IN THE RESERVE. IT’S MONEY OF TARGETED TO GO BACK INTO THE RESERVE IF I WERE TO YOU TO OUR ARGUMENT WHERE I WOULD SIMPLY SAY YOU’VE TAKEN IT OUT AND SITTING THERE AND COULD BE USED DIFFERENTLY. BUT AT ANY RATE WE HAVE ACTIVATED THE-I’M JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW TO TIE THE AMENDMENT TO ONE SPECIFIC ISSUE IS REALLY NOT FAIR TO THE COMMITTEE. THERE’S OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD BE USED IF THE AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: OTHER DISCUSSION TO THE AMENDMENT? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION THE CHAIR WILL TAKE THE ROLL ON THE A – 34 AMENDMENT>>STAFF: KNOBLACH NAY VOGEL NAY CARLSON AYE ANDERSON NAY BAKER JENNY DID DAVIDS NAY DEAN NAY DETTMER NAY DRAZKOWSKI NAY FABIAN NAY GAROFALO NAY GUNTHER NAY HAMILTON NAY HAUSMAN–HERTAUS NAY HILSTROM AYE HORNSTEIN GENERATED LIEBLING AYE LOONAN NAY MARQUART AYE MURPHY-OF NORNES NAY PELOWSKI AYE POPPE AYE TORKELSON NAY URDAHL NAY WAGENIUS AYE>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: THERE BEING EIGHT AYE AND 17 NAYS THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: I’M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS BUT I DO KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO TESTIFY. IS COMMISSIONER CASELLIUS IN THE ROOM? WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE COMMISSIONER.>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY TODAY ON EDUCATION OMNIBUS BILL HOUSE FILE 4328. VERY SPIRITED DISCUSSION HERE AND I APPRECIATE IT. I’M BRENDA CASELLIUS COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATIONAL HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE PROPOSALS IN THE BILL THAT I SUPPORT SOME ITEMS I CANNOT SUPPORT IN AREAS LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK TOWARDS COMPROMISE. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE AND LISTENING PUBLIC THAT WE HAVE AN OVERALL SURPLUS OF $329 MILLION AND IN THIS BILL 10% GOES TO KIDS. 10%. NOT EVEN 10% BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE $32.9 MILLION IN THIS BILL IS $30 MILLION. SO THERE IS MORE MONEY IN THE BILL AND I APPRECIATE THE TARGET OF 30 MILLION BUT WE COULD DO BETTER BY OUR KIDS. TYPICALLY; WE FUND EDUCATION AT ABOUT 42% OF THE GENERAL EDUCATION OF OUR GENERAL BUDGET. 10% IS JUST NOT ENOUGH FOR KIDS AND WITH A NEED WE HEARD SCHOOL BOARDS TALK TO US ABOUT SPECIAL EDUCATION. WE HAVE HEARD THE NEED TO NOT CLOSE OUR PRE SCHOOL PROGRAMS THAT WE PROMISE TO SC HOOLS IN PRE-K IT WE NEED TO DEFINITELY FUND OUR SCHOOLS RUN SAFE SCHOOLS. WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY IMPROVEMENT ON WHAT WE HAVE IN THE SENATE WHICH IS A ZERO TARGET. WHICH IS STATED BY SEN. NELSON ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THAT HIT THE TARGET OF ZERO. THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS THE BILL PROGRESSES AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE DEBATE IF WE INCREASE THE TARGET TO MEET SOME OF THE NEEDS OF OUR SCHOOLS THAT WOULD MATCH IT WITH THE GOVERNOR’S ASSESSMENTS ARE. ONE WAY TO INCREASE THE TARGET WOULD BE TO RETAIN REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART’S AMENDMENT WHICH YOU JUST VOTED ON TO PROVIDE SPECIAL EDUCATION TOWARD DISTRICTS WITH THE HIGHEST SPECIAL EDUCATION CROSS SUBSIDIES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PRE-K. ALTHOUGH NOT THE GOVERNOR’S BOZO EXACTLY IT’S A GOOD START NECESSARY FOR [INAUDIBLE] TO CONTAIN GROWTH. AS YOU KNOW IT’S THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF OUR SCHOOL BOARDS THIS YEAR. JUST TO HELP OUT WITH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE YOU MIGHT FIND THE MONEY YO U COULD REPEAL THE CIGARETTE TAX WHICH IS I THINK $25 MILLION THAT MIGHT HELP WITH APING IS ACTUALLY KILLING OUR KIDS AND I ALSO TALK WITH REPRESENTATIVE LOON ABOUT LITERACY EIGHT WHICH IS 50 MILLION. THIS IS A LOT OF WAYS TO IMPROVE THE TARGET AND IMPROVE THE BILL. EVEN THOUGH REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART’S POPULAR AMENDMENT HAD PASSED IT WAS AMENDED LATER AND WHICH DELAYED THE EFFECTIVE DATE –EFFECTIVENESS STATE UNTIL 2022 BUT SCHOOLS ARE STRUGGLING NOW AND THEY JUST CAN’T WAIT FOUR MORE YEARS FOR THIS REBATE. LIKE THE GOVERNOR CHAIR LOON TOOK A STRONG STANCE FOR SCHOOL SAFETY AND I REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE HER SCHOOL SAFETY PROVISION IN THIS BILL. HAVE A LOT OF SHARED PRIORITIES OF THE GOVERNOR FOR SCHOOL AID MENTAL HEALTH GRANTS; THREAT ASSESSMENT; [INAUDIBLE] DISMISSAL AND I LOVE THE AUDITING IN HERE THE SRO TRAINING THE FLEXIBLE TO GIVE INTO THE DISTRICT AND CRYSTALLINE OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR INTERMEDIATE SERVER MOST COMPLEX STUDENTS TO BE PROVIDED WITH ONGOING FUNDING. BUT I REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE HER STANDING UP AND TAKEN A STRONG STANCE AND CHAIR LOON AND SEN. PRATT BOTH AGREED TO INTRODUCE A DRAFT OF A COOL BILL LAST WEEK WHICH INCLUSIVE OF ANY OF OUR SHARE PRIORITIES IN THE HEALTH HOUSE SENATE AND GOVERNORS BILL. I PARTISAN MY STUFF OR TO GET THIS TOGETHER SO WE CAN ALL GET TO WORK AND GET A BILL TO THE GOVERNOR’S DESK . HE SAID IN A STATE OF THE STATE IN A LETTER ON APRIL 9 AND AGAIN REQUESTED IN A LETTER TODAY TO GET IN BILLS EARLY SO THEY COULD DESIGN THEM AND WE CAN GET STARTED MAKING SCHOOLS SAFER FOR KIDS BUT I HOPE WILL SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD QUICKLY ON THIS CLEAN BILL HF 4439. AFTER YEARS OF INVESTING IN OUR LITTLEST LEARNERS IT’S DISAPPOINTING THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT INCLUDE BUDGET TO MAINTAIN A 4000 SEATS FOR VOLUNTARY PREKINDERGARTEN AND SCHOOL READINESS THAT WAS BUDGETED JUST LAST YEAR. THERE’S OVER 6000 APPLICANTS THIS YEAR. AN ADDITIONAL 1000 SEATS. THERE’S ALSO NO FUNDING FOR HELP ME GROW A PROPOSAL GOVERNORS INCLUDED IN HIS BUDGET FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. IT ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE COMMENTS AND CHANGE OF THE MINISTRATION OF EARLY LEARNING SCHOLARSHIPS THAT WILL ALLOW-OR MORE FUNDING FOR EARLY LEARNING SCHOLARSHIPS OR HEAD START TO ALLOW MORE CHILDREN TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FUNDING VERS US THREE AND FOR FAMILIES TO FULL USE OF THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND. THE BILL ALSO REQUIRES TO ADMINISTER KINDERGARTEN ENTRY PROFILE TO REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLING OF KINDERGARTEN AND LET ME BE CLEAR THAT MDE SUPPORTS THE [INAUDIBLE] AND SPENT YEARS OF APPROVING THE ADMINISTRATION OF IT BUT THE CURRENT FUNDING PROVIDED TO AGENCY ONLY ALLOWS 10% SAMPLING OF ELIGIBLE PRESCHOOLERS. I WANT TO BE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT ANY RESULTS IN A SMALL SAMPLE ARE NOT ENOUGH TO BE REPRESENTATIVE AND CANNOT BE USED FOR BY STATISTICALLY VALID FINDINGS. THEREFORE WITHOUT ADDING MORE FUNDING TO THIS BILL TO FUND THE K -WITH THE CHAIR’S INTENT WITH THE LEGISLATURE SEEKING WITH THE DATE OF THAT WE HAVE CONCLUSIVE DATA ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR INVESTMENTS. TO FULLY FUND THE TEP WE MUST INVEST IN ADEQUATELY WHICH IS ABOUT 1.5 THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET ABOUT 1.5 OVER THE NEXT BIENNIUM. OTHER PRIORITIES NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BILL INCLUDE CONTINUATION OF FUNDING FOR BIU SCHOOLS. I’VE BEEN BEFORE THIS BODY BEFORE AN EDUCATION COMMITTEE TALK ABOUT OUR [INAUDIBLE] KIDS WERE FUNDED AT ABOUT HALF OF ALL OTHER KIDS IN THE STATE. BECAUSE THEY’RE FEDERALLY FUNDED. WELL FOUR YEARS AGO WE STEPPED IN PROVIDE EQUALIZATION EIGHT FOR THE STUDENTS BUT ONLY BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT ON ONE TIME FUNDING EVERY BIENNIUM. WELL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO MAKE THAT PROMINENT SO WE DON’T HAVE TO COME BACK AND FIGHT EVERY YEAR FOR THE STUDENTS TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS OTHER STUDENTS CAN BE FUNDED LIKE ALL THEIR STUDENTS. IT’S ABOUT $3.6 MILLION OVER EACH BIENNIUM. NO FUNDING FOR GED. THIS BILL FUNDS 7.8 MILLION AND SOLVE ALL GRANTS BELIEVES THAT THE SMALL INVESTMENT OF $400;000 TO BUILD A WORKFORCE READINESS THOSE OF YOU TO EARN A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. THE SMALL $120 IS A FIGURE A REAL BARRIER FOR SOME WHO APSLEY BENEFIT AND HOPEFULLY FIND WORK AND THIS REALLY DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE NOT TO MAKE THIS REALLY SMALL INVESTMENT AND REMOVE THE AREA FOR GED. WE CONTINUE WORK WITH CHAIR LOON AND ADVOCATES TO ENSURE OUR KIDS ARE NOT RINGING LEAD IN THEIR SCHOOL WATER RIGHT NOW THE BILL DOESN’T ADDRESS NOTIFYING PARENTS OR SHUTTING OFF THE WATER AT ITS SOURCE WHEN IT HAS LEAD IN IT. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT ALL OF US CAN AGREE STUDENTS AND KIDS SHOULD NOT BE EXPOSED TO UNSAFE LEVELS OF LEAD IN THE DRINKING WATER IN PARENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE AND WE SHOULD NOT BE ARGUING ABOUT IT THE CUTS TO MDS OPERATING BUDGET BY 2 MILLION IN THE NEXT BIENNIUM IS DEBILITATING. IT WOULD CRIPPLE OUR NEW ACCOUNT TO BE WORK AND MAKE IT NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR SUPPORT TO SCHOOLS. JUST A TIME WHEN WERE DOUBLING DOWN ON HER ACCOUNTABILITY AND SUPPORT TO SCHOOL THIS WOULD SERVE AS A HUGE BLOW TO THE AGENCY AND THE TEACHERS AND SCHOOL LEADERS DEPENDING ON US FOR ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT. ADDITIONALLY; THE GOVERNOR MADE CLEAR BEFORE AND IN HIS LETTER TODAY THAT WITH THE $329 MILLION SURPLUS CUTS TO AGENCIES ARE ENTIRELY UNWARRANTED AND HE WILL NOT SIGN BILLS WITH CUTS TO AGENCY. THE AGENCY WAS STRUGGLE ITS CORE MISSION TO ENACT LAWS HIS BODY HAS PASSED AND ALL THE NEW UNFUNDED MANDATES [INAUDIBLE] NEW GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND CURRICULUM REVIEW. JUST CAN’T BE DONE. WE ARE ALREADY SHORTSTAFFED. THE CUTS TO O UR MDA ASSESSMENTS FOR OPT OUT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT HER ABILITY TO ADMINISTER OUR STATE TEST. WE HAVE GONE SEVERAL YEARS NOW WITHOUT ANY TEST SPIRITS LET’S NOT JEOPARDIZE THAT NOW. FINALLY; THE GOVERNOR HAS CLEARED CLEARLY STATED MULTIPLE TIMES HE DOESN’T WANT CONTROVERSIAL POLICIES TO RUN WITH FISCAL BILLS. THIS BILL INCLUDES THE ENTIRE HOUSE POLICY BILL AND BECAUSE THIS BILL CONTAINS CONTROVERSIAL POLICY PROVISIONS I WILL HIGHLIGHT THOSE I CANNOT SUPPORT IN CURRENT FORM. SPECIFIC TESTS THE REPORTING SPECIFICALLY IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I CONTINUE TO OPPOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT STUDENTS TAKE A NATURALIZATION TEST WHICH DOWNTOWN OUR SOCIAL STUDI ES AND IF THE CIVICS TEST WE WANT LET’S GIVE THEM THE ACADEMIC [INAUDIBLE] OF ALL OUR OTHER TESTED UNTIL THE REAL CIVICS TEST I CANNOT SUPPORT IT IT MUST BE FUNDED. I’VE NO PROBLEM WIT H [INAUDIBLE] AS LONG AS IT DOESN’T CREEP INTO THE ALREADY CROWDED [INAUDIBLE] OF GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS. ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE REPRESENTATIVE ERICKSON WORKING WITH ME AND MY STUFF WORLD’S BEST WORKFORCE REQUIREMENT I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD TRAVEL AND SEPARATE POLIC Y BILLS. I CANNOT STATE STRONGLY ENOUGH MY OPPOSITION TO THE STAR RATING SYSTEM BUT I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT REPRESENTATIVE LOON-CHAIR LOON HAS TAKEN TO ALIGN ARE NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND WORK BUT IT STILL RETAINS 0-100% POINT SCALE WHICH WE TRIED WITH OUR WAIVER IN MMR WHICH IS VERY CONFUSING TO SCHOOLS. THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT AND WE TOOK IT OUT. WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT STAKEHOLDER GROUP COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENT FAMILY REPORT CARDS HOW THE SCHOOL IS PERFORMING. LET THEM DO THEIR WORK AND TRUST THE PROCESS. JUST SO YOU KNOW; WE WORKED WITH THOUSANDS OF STAKEHOLDERS ON OUR ESSA PLAN HELD OVER 300 MEETING STATEWIDE OVER TWO-YEAR PERIOD. THEY’VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THAT. EDUCATORS AND SCHOOL ADMINISTRA TORS HAVE EXPENSE CONCERN THAT THE NEW TIER LICENSES OF THEM IS NOT READY FOR JULY 1 MENTATION DATE YET THIS BODY HAS REFUSED TO LIGHT THE IMPLEMENTATION AND ALSO EXPRESSING CONCERN FOR THE CHAIR LICENSURE SYSTEM MAY NOT PUT ADEQUATE TRAIN TEACHERS IN A POSITION TO DO DYSLEXIA SCREEN BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF REQUIREMENT FOR PREPARATION FOR TEACHERS TO ACTUALLY BE PREPARED IN TEARS ONE THROUGH THREE THAT WAS ENACTED LAST YEAR. ON APRIL 9 AND TODAY THE GOVERNOR SENT LETTER TO THE SENATE AND HOUSE LEADERSHIP OUTLINING THE PARAMETERS HE BELIEVES WILL ALLOW US TO ACHIEVE A SMOOTH AND SUCCESSFUL CONCLUSION TO THE SESSION. IN THE LETTERS HE STATES THAT HE CANNOT SUPPORT A BILL THAT INCL UDES POLICY MAKES CUT TO OPERATING BUDGETS OF STATE AGENCIES THAT WILL NEGOTIATED AND ENACTED LAST YEAR OR ARE BASED ON FALSE FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS WHICH THIS BILL INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE THINGS. LESS THAN A MONTH TO GO. I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM AND I AND MY STUFF READY TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES GET TO WORK SO WE CAN FIND AGREEMENT AND DELIVER A BILL WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF WHICH SUPPORTS OUR KIDS AND FAMILIES AND THE GOVERNOR CAN SIGN. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS AND>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR TO THE COMMISSION OF YOU MENTIONED TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE TAX AREA. WHAT WAS COMMISSIONER BAUERLY’S REACTION TO THE PROPOSAL?>>TESTIFIER: IT’S IN HER BILL>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS : YOU SAID YOU WANTED FOR THE EDUCATION BILL. HOW DID SHE REACT TO THAT?>>TESTIFIER: I DON’T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM MR. CHAIR.>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS: WELL YOU SAID FROM THE TOBACCO TAX BUT IN TAXI WANT TO MOVE INTO EDUCATION. I LIKE TO KNOW HOW COMMISSIONER BAUERLY RESPONDED TO YOUR PROPOSAL?>>TESTIFIER: I WAS THINKING UP IDEAS EITHER THAT WERE IN HER TAX PROPOSAL. HOW YOU DECIDE TO INCREASE OUR TARGET IS UP TO THE BODY AND TO THIS LEGISLATURE. AND THE GOVERNOR.>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS: ALL ASK HER MYSELF.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE URDAHL BEAT ALL THANK YOU FOR YOUR WIDE-RANGING COMMENTS AND VARIOUS THINGS. SOME OF WHICH I AGREE WITH AND SOME OF WHICH I DON’T. FIRST OF ALL; I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAYBE MOLLIFY YOU A LITTLE BIT SCHOOL SAFETY AS YOU LIKELY KNOW; THERE IS 25 MILLION FROM REPRESENTATIVE LOON’S BILL THAT WILL VERY LIKELY BE IN THE BONDING BILL AS WELL. FOR SCHOOL SAFETY AND SECURITY. REGARDING THE CIVICS CLASS AND TEST-WELL FIRST OF ALL I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON ACCEPTANCE OF THE CREDIT WHICH I THINK IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROVISION REGARDING THE TEST ; OF COURSE IN 2016 WE DID PASS A PROVISION TO DO A CIVICS TEST BASED ON A NATURALIZATION TEST; WHICH BY THE WAY WE DID CORRELATE WITH OUR STANDARDS AS WE CHOSE THE QUESTIONS FOR THAT BUT THAT IS THE ONLY BASICALLY STATEWIDE TEST WE HAVE IN CIVICS. ALL WE ARE ASKING-WERE NOT TRYING TO PUT IT AT THE LEVEL OF THE MCA’S OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE ARE JUST SAYING; OKAY; OF THE SENIORS THAT GRADUATE HOW MANY TOOK THE TEST WHAT PERCENT GRADUATED. I DON’T THINK THAT SHOULD BE THAT ONEROUS OF A PROVISION. THAT SAID; I DO APPRECIATETHAT COMMISSIONER; YOU AND I ARE GOING TO BE MEETING TOMORROW MORNING AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS FURTHER.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: COMMISSIONER ANY COMMENTS?>>TESTIFIER: I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON IT SO WE CAN FIND A COMPROMISE.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING.>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER; THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YOU SAID A LOT OF THINGS IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IN ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME AND TO DO WITH LEAD IN WATER. IN SCHOOLS. I THINK YOU SAID THAT THE BILL DOESN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT MAYBE YOU COULD JUST HAVING ACTUALLY I KIND OF LIKE TO HEAR CHAIR LOON RESPOND TO THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THE COMMISSION WA S SAYINGTHERE’S NOTHING IN HERE ABOUT SHUTTING OFF THE WATER I N A DRINKING FOUNTAIN WHEN WE KNOW IT HAS LEAD IN IT. I MEAN THIS IS A BIG BIG DEAL AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR RESPONSE TO HER COMMENTS AND MAYBE CLARIFY AND I WENT BY PRETTY FAST AND I’M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE BILL DOES OR DOESN’T DO AROUND THE. SPEECH AB OUT BEFORE YOU ANSWER REPRESENTATIVE JOHN COMMISSION I WANT TO BE CLEAR THIS IS A POLICY PROVISION THAT YOU WANT INCLUDED IN THE BILL. IS THAT CORRECT?>>TESTIFIER: THAT IS CORRECT. I LIKE TO SEE US STRENGTHEN OUR SCHOOL WATER LEAD IN WATER POLICY SO WE NOTIFY PARENTS AND WE REMEDIATE IT I THINK CHAIR LOON WILL WORK WITH US ON THAT SHE IS TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TO AGREE AND IT JUST NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BILL YET. I’M HOPING THAT WILL BE IN THE FINAL VERSE. SPEECH OR BOX YOU’RE SPEAKING FOR THE GOVERNOR AND HE ALSO WANTS TO HAVE THIS POLICY PROVISION IN THE BILL. IS THAT CORRECT?>>TESTIFIER: YES MR. CHAIR.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE JENNA>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON:. THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR AND REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING. IN THE BILL OUR BUDGET BILL THE PAST LAST YEAR THERE WAS A PROVISION THAT SCHOOLS ARE REQUIRED TO TEST THEIR WATER ALL OF THEIR WATER SOURCES FOR LEAD AND THE CLOCK FOR THAT STARTS JULY 1 OF THIS YEAR AND THEY ARE ALSO TO MAKE THOSE REPORTS AVAILABLE TO PARENTS ON WHAT THOSE RESULTS ARE. SO I KNOW THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THIS IS NOT AN AREA OF MY EXPERTISE BUT WITH REGARDS TO PARTS PER BILLION OF LEAD THAT’S DETECTED AND WHAT OF THIS STANDARDS HAVE IN THEIR STANDARDS RIGHT NOW IS UNDERSTAND FOR MUNICIPAL SOURCES OF DRINKING WATER AND WHAT WOULD BE THE STANDARD THAT SCHOOLS WOULD TRY TO BE REQUIRED TO GET TO WITH OUR WATER SOURCES. WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THE MUNICIPAL SOURCE WHERE I ASSUME MOST SCHOOLS GET THEIR WATER ; THE CITY THEY ARE IN THEIR LOCALITY? BE DIFFERENT SOURCES AND WHAT THAT WOULD BE. SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE ONGOING BUT THERE IS IN PLACE REQUIREMENT SCHOOLS HAVE TO REPORT THOSE [INAUDIBLE] AND PARENTS KNOW WHAT IT IS.>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEBLING: THANK YOU CHAIR LOON FOR THAT. OF COURSE; SCHOOLS HA VE LED SITES. THAT’S PROBABLY YOU CAN’T ASSUME THE MUNICIPAL [INAUDIBLE] AND I JUST WANT TO SAY; BOY; IF OUR KIDS ARE GETTING LEAD IN THE WATER AT SCHOOL; I MEAN WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN EDUCATION WE ALL WANT OUR KIDS TO LEARN AND LETTING THAT COULD POISONED IN SCHOOL; I MEAN IT JUST REALLY JUMPS OUT AT ME AND I HOPE WE CAN JUST TAKE THAT AS AN EMERGENCY ISSUE AND DEAL WITH IT.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: I MEAN I AGREE. THIS IS SCHOOLS DO NEED TO TEST AND THEY DO TO REPORT THE RESULTS OF THE TEST THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW. SO AGAIN THAT WAS IN THE LEGISLATION WAS SIGNED INTO LAW LAST YEAR. AND AGAIN THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ON GOING ABOUT THIS SORT OF BUILD UPON THAT SO I DON’T THINK WE ARE AT A POINT [INAUDIBLE] ANY CONSENSUS WAS REACHED ON KEY POINTS TO THAT.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: COMMISSIONER CASELLIUS>>TESTIFIER: JUST TO CLARIFY THE GOVERNOR DOES ONE POLICY TO RUN SEPARATE SO HE PREFERS TO SEE IT IN THE POLICY BILL BUT BECAUSE THIS IS SHARED WITH THE FINANCE BILL [INAUDIBLE] POLICY AND FINANCE TOGETHER. SECONDLY; THERE ARE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO PARENTS. THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ACTIVELY TELL PARENTS SO THEY COULD JUST PUT IT ON SOME WEBSITE SOMEWHERE OR UPON REQUEST PROVIDED. WHICH I DON’T THINK IS GOOD ENOUGH. I THINK THAT SCHOOLS SHOULD HAVE TO TELL PARENTS IF THEY FIND SOMETHING AT THE WATER FOUNTAIN AT YOUR SCHOOL SHOULD ACTIVELY AND DIRECTLY TELL PARENTS IF YOU HAVE NOT FIXED IT OR FIX IT. I THINK WE ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET LANGUAGE AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE COMPROMISE LANGUAGE THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL POL ICY BILL THAT WILL RUN SEPARATELY OR IN THIS BILL IF IT’S GOING TO BE ALL PUT TOGETHER.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE FABIAN>>REPRESENTATIVE FABIAN: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I SPENT 35 YEARS IN THE CLASSROOM MY KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL WHILE I WAS TEACHING THE ADMINISTRATORS [INAUDIBLE] THE SCHOOL BOARD CHILDREN WERE GOING TO SCHOOL THERE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH MANY MANY SCHOOLS IN MY DISTRICT AND I KNOW INTIMATELY INVOLVED PARENTS ARE IN LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR WITH REGARD TO LEAD BUT CHAIR LOON I HAVE TO ASK YOU AND POSSIBLY COMMISSIONER; IS THERE ANYTHING CURRENTLY THAT IS GOING TO PREVENT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS FROM KAREN ABOUT THE KIDS AND DOING THE TESTING AND REPORTING THIS BILL? I GREAT CONFIDENCE IN LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS AND ADMINISTRATORS AND TEACHERS AND PARENTS TO BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THEIR SCHOOLS IS THE DOG CHASING THE TAIL HERE IN THE TILL HAS BEEN CROPPED? TELL ME UP HERE CHAIR LOON>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: NO. I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT OUR SCHOOLS AS WELL AND AGAIN I THINK THERE REQUIRED TO TEST. THEY WILL HAVE TO TEST THEY DO HAVE TO MAKE THOSE TESTS AVAILABLE FOR PARENTS SO PARENTS KNOW. I THINK SCHOOLS KNOW THAT THEY BETTER BE COMMUNICATING WITH PARENTS IF THERE IS A RESULT THAT IS NOT A HEALTHY ONE ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO REMEDIATE THE SITUATION. ANY SCHOOL THAT [INAUDIBLE] INTERACTED WITH WOULD BE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO RECTIFY THAT SITUATION AND TO MAKE SURE THE PARENTS AND THE COMMUNITY WAS INFORMED.>>REPRESENTATIVE FABIAN: WELL; JUST TO RESTATE; I JUST THINK THAT LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS DO A GREAT JOB OF TAKING CARE OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN THEIR SCHOOLS AND I THINK THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS KIDS AND THE HEALTH OF THEIR KIDS AND I JUST FOR THE LIFE OF ME CANNOT IMAGINE THE PEOPLE I KNOW RUNNING SCHOOLS DOING ANYTHING THAT WOULD EVEN COME CLOSE TO SOMEHOW NOT REPORTING WERE NOT TAKING CARE PROBLEMS .>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. I’M A BIT CONFUSED HERE BECAUSE [INAUDIBILE / OFF MIC] . COMMISSIONER; DO YOU WANT [INAUDIBLE] EDUCATOR POLICY IN THE EDUCATION FINANCE BILL? IS THAT CORRECT>>TESTIFIER: IF THE BILL RUNS TOGETHER THEN THE POLICY THAT’S CONTAINED WITHIN THE FISCAL BILL I THINK US TO BE NONCONTROVERSIAL POLICY AND EVERYBODY AGREES ON ITS.>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS: COMMISSIONER; GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. I’LL CALL THE GOVERNOR BUT YOU SHOULD JUST LET HIM KNOW IN TAX AREA THAT WILL BE ANY TAX POLICY UNLESS IT’S IN THE TAX BILL. S O I COULD GIVE HIM A CALL. THANK YOU .>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE DRAZKOWSKI.>>REPRESENTATIVE DRAZKOWSKI: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. I’M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS. THIS WHOLE THING I WAS OPPOSED TO THE PROVISION WHEN IT CAME AND WE CONTINUED [INAUDIBLE] I SHARE REPRESENTATIVE FABIAN’S CONCERNS. OUR PARENTS AND SCHOOL BOARDS ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB BUT GIVEN THAT WE HAVE THIS LOT NOW WE ARE SETTLED WITH. ; AFTER A SCHOOL HAS GONE THROUGH THE TESTING AND DETERMINED THAT THEY PASS THE STANDARD ARE WE CONTINUING AND REQUIRING THE TEST RECORD EVERY SINGLE YEAR OR HOW OFTEN; WHEN CAN WE SHUT OFF THE TESTING? I GUESS THAT WOULD BE->>CHAIR KNOBLACH: COMMISSIONER CASELLIUS.>>TESTIFIER: REPRESENTATIVE DRAZKOWSKI; THE TESTING IS EVERY FIVE YEARS CURRENTLY.>>REPRESENTATIVE DRAZKOWSKI: SO; THERE WE GO AGAIN. IF IT PASSES NOW AND IT’S A LETTE R TESTING SITUATION IT’S GOING TO BE FINE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. WHY DO WE CONTINUE THIS? ANYWAY I WON’T BELABOR THE POINT ANYMORE BUT NANNY STATE IS HERE VERY STRONGLY AND IT’S COSTING OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LOTS OF MONEY AND IT’S REMOVING THE POWER FROM LOCAL DECISION-MAKERS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON.>>REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER OF’S INTERESTED IN YOUR COMMENT YOUR CONCERN THE PARENTS NEED TO BE NOTIFIED IF THERE IS A CASE OF SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE WATER. YOU ALSO FEEL THAT WAY IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS REQUIRED TO REPORT TO THE STATE WHEN THE STUDENTS DEMOGRAPHIC AND DISCIPLINARY ACTION THAT WERE TAKEN WITH THAT STUDENT; THE STUDENTS PARENTS NAMES AND SO FORTH? YOU ALSO FEEL THE PARENTS SHOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT THE CHILD’S INFORMATION IS BEING COLLECTED FOR VARIOUS ISSUES AND REPORTED TO THE STATE?>>TESTIFIER: WE HAVE STRICT LAWS AROUND STUDENTS COLLECTION OF DATA SO WHERE APPROPRIATE STUDENTS NAME ARE SHARED AND WERE NOT APPROPRIATE THEY ARE NUMBER I DON’T HAVE A LOT RIGHT AND FINALLY AND HOW WE FOLLOW THAT WE DO HAVE DATA PRACTICES EXPERTS AND LAWYERS AT THE DEPARTMENT TO MONITOR DATA THAT COMES IN AND OUT.>>REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON: COMMISSIONER CASELLIUS; I QUESTION IS DO YOU THINK PARENTS SHOULD BE NOTIFIED IF THEIR CHILD INFORMATION FROM THE DEMOGRAPHICS DISCIPLINARY ACTION AND SO FORTH THAT DATA BE COLLECTED AND BE REPORTED TO THE STATE? NOT YOUR AGENCY.>>TESTIFIER: I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK EXACTLY WHAT DATA YOU ARE ASKING ME ABOUT IN COLLECTION IN TERMS OF OUR REPORTING IN A REPORTING OF BEHAVIOR. I BELIEVE THAT COMES TO US IN AGGREGATE AND WE DON’T HAVE SPECIFIC DATA UNLESS IT COMES IN THE FORM OF HIGHLY DISCIPLINARY LIKE ON A APPEAL BUT I CAN GO BACK AND CHECK AND GET YOU THAT INFORMATION ABSOLUTELY.>>REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER; WHAT I’M ASKING ABOUT IS MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS IS NOW ASKING FOR STUDENTS TO PROVIDE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS AGAINST STUDENTS COLLECTING THE STUDENTS NAMES; COLLECTING THE STUDENTS DEMOGRAPHICS IN PROVIDING AND TAKING THE DATA AND SENDING IT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS WITHOUT WILL SIT. SO I AM ASSUMING BASED UPON YOUR CONCERNS EXPRES SED EARLIER YOU WOULD ALSO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARENTS BEING NOTIFIED ABOUT THAT AS WELL?>>TESTIFIER: TO THE BEST OF MY UNDERSTANDING THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED IS PUBLIC DATA ON OUR WEBSITE THAT M.D. HR HAS RECEIVED AROUND DISCIPLINE AND IT DOES NOT IDENTIFY STUDENTS IT IS AGGREGATE WITH PERCENTAGES OF STUDENT GROUPS AT THE SCHOOL SITE.>>REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON: COMMISSIONER CASELLIUS; NO; THIS A PART OF THE AGREEMENT THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF RATES IS REQUIRING THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT PROVIDE THIS IS OUTSIDE OF A CURRENT LAW IS THIS IT CAN BE AN ADDITIONAL REPORTING THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS IS REQUESTED BUT I CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU LATER.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS.>>REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. FOR THE MOMS AND DADS WATCHING US ON TV COME I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT NOT EVERY MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATURE MINIMIZES THE EFFECT OF LEAD ON CHILDREN . MOST OF US KNOW THAT LED COST IQ POINTS IN A COST OUR ECONOMY AND THE NUMBERS ARE HUGE. THAT APARTMENT OF HEALTH HAS DONE A STUDY WHICH I WILL BRING TO THE FLOOR SO WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. JUST PROTEST ING THIS NOTION THAT KIDS ARE NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PROTECT THEM SO WE HAVE SCHOOL SAFETY IN THE BILL ON ONE HAND AND ON THE OTHER HAND WE ARE SAYING IT’S LED; KIDS DON’T NEED TO BE SAFE AND I SAY THIS PARTICULARLY BECAUSE ALL OF US SITTING HERE GET CLEAN BOTTLED WATER TO DRINK EVERY DAY AND WE ARE NOT PROVIDING IT FOR OUR KIDS. SHAME ON US. BEECHER BUCKREPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS I’M NOT SURE I HEARD ANYONE SAY T HEY FELT THAT HAVING LEAD IN CHILDREN’S WATER WAS OKAY. I GUESS I DO NOT HEAR THAT. IF SOMEONE FEELS DIFFERENTLY I INVITE THEM TO SPEAK UP. OKAY I DON’T SEE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS: TO REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS IS POINT WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MINIMIZING CHILDREN OR SUPPORTING LEAD IN THEIR WATER; WHO SAID THAT?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO BE REP HE WAGENIUS?>>REPRESENTATIVE WAGENIUS: I THINK WE WERE SAYING; MY GOSH ‘S POLICY WE CAN TALK ABOUT POLICY OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT POLICY. WE WERE MINIMIZING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE ELEVATING THIS ISSUE AND SAYING; YES; WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS IT BECAUSE THIS IS A BILL THAT HAS SAFETY IN IT. SO LET’S MAKE SURE THAT WHETHER THAT SAFETY IS IN THIS BILL OR ANOTHER BILL THAT LED IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS: NOBODY WAS MINIMIZING LEAD. THE GOVERNOR KEEP SENDING ME LETTERS SAYING KEEP POLICY AND FINANCE BILLS AND I’M NOT GOING TO DO IT FIRST OF ALL BECAUSE THEY GO TOGETHER. SO HOW YOU CAN EXTRAPOLATE FROM ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID BY ANYBODY HERE THAT ANYBODY SUPPORTS LEAD IN CHILDREN’S WATER IS OUTRAGEOUS .>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE DEAN.>>REPRESENTATIVE DEAN: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER CASELLIUS; ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY SCHOOL BUILDINGS IN THE STATE THAT CURRENTLY HAVE UNSAFE LEVELS OF LEAD THAT CHILDREN HAVE ACCESS TO EITHER TO DRINK OR NONPORTABLE USES?>>TESTIFIER: I AM AWARE OF THE SCHOOL. I KNOW THEY DO FLUSHING EVERY DAY WHICH IS A REGULAR PRACTICE OF MANY OF OUR OLD OR OLDER BUILDINGS WITH A FLUSH THE WATER THAT’S DEPENDENT ON HUMANS AND HUMANS MAKE ERRORS. SO; THIS IS JUST A WAY TO QUITE HONESTLY I DO NOT EXPECT THIS KIND OF DEBATE AND I APPRECIATE THE DEBATE WE ARE HAVING AROUND SCHOOL LEAD IN WATER.. MY GOAL HERE IS BASICALLY THAT HER SCHOOLS ARE TESTING THEIR WATER ; THAT CHILDREN DON’T DRINK IT ACCIDENTALLY OR OTHERWISE THAT IS SHUT OFF OR REMEDIATED TO FIX IF THE SCHOOL CAN AFFORD TO FIX IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF FACILITY ISSUES IN OUR SCHOOLS AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS OR THAT PARENTS ARE NOTIFIED SO THEY CAN PROVIDE BOTTLED WATER FOR THEIR CHILD WHEN THEY GO TO SCHOOL. THAT IS SIMPLY ALL A MASK AND I DON’T THINK THAT IS SOMETHINGANY OF US WOULD DISAGREE WITH AND JUST MAKING THE RESULTS OF AVAILABLE; SOMETIMES I CAN’T EVEN FIND SCHOOL ACHIEVEMENT ON THE SCHOOL’S WEBSITE OR THE PRINCIPAL’S NAME AND SOMETIMES PARENTS DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO WEBSITES; ESPECIALLY WHERE INTERNET. SO; I KNOW IT MAY BE WORKS IN SMALL RURAL COMMUNITIES BUT WHERE YOU HAVE 35; 50;000 STUDENTS IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND MAYBE MUCH MORE CHALLENGING IF IT’S NOT AN ACTIVE NOTIFICATION TO>>REPRESENTATIVE DEAN: COMMISSIONER; WE ALL SHARE THAT AND AFTER I THINK NATIONALLY THE CONVERSATION ABOUT LEAD IN WATER AND ITS EFFECTS ON CHILDREN IS ONE THAT HAS NOT ONLY REACHED POPULAR KNOWLEDGE CONSENSUS BUT ALSO HAD TIME TO ENACT ITSELF IN LEGISLATION. I KNOW THAT IN MY HOUSE I HAVE A WELL. [INAUDIBLE] IS A GROUP GREAT LOCAL PLACE THAT TEST MY WATER FOR LATER IT’S SUPER CHEAP . SO IF YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL BECAUSE YOU SAY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY NOT COMMUNICATINGWITH PARENTS ABOUT UNSAFE LEAD LEVELS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE VERY VERY CHEAPLY AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT LEVEL THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY NOT DOING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WE CAN’T MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BILL BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING. YOU ARE ALSO SAYING THAT YOU KNOW OF SOME BUILDINGS THAT DO HAVE UNSAFE LEVELS OF LEAD IN OTHERS THAT DO NOT. SHOULDN’T THAT BE MORE IMPORTANTTHAN LOTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY SPENDING MONEY ON AT THE LOCAL LEVEL?>>TESTIFIER: WE HAVE A LOT OF FACILITY NEEDS AND THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. WE ALREADY HAVE A TESTING REQUIREMENT I AM SIMPLY REQUESTING THAT IN THIS BILL THAT WE ADDRESS SHUTTING I T OFF; COVERING IT WITH PLASTIC REMEDIATING THE PROBLEM AND NOTIFYING PARENTS IN I DON’T MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER THE BILL GETS SIGN OR NOT IT’S UP TO THE GOVERNOR AND WE DECIDE –WE ALL DECIDE WHAT CONTROVERSY OR IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL CURRENTLY IS NOT IN THE BILL. I’M ACKNOWLEDGING IT’S NOT IN THE BILL AND THAT IT’S A HUGE CONCERN TO ME AND MANY OTHERS THAT’S NOT IN THE BILL. CHAIR LOON H AS WORKED WITH US AND HAD EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN CONTINUING TO WORK WITH US AND STAKEHOLDERS. I DO NOT EXPECT IT TO GET THI S LIVELY OF A DISCUSSION AND NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY OF NOT CARING ABOUT KIDS ARE WANTING THEM TO DRINK LED WATER. I WAS SADLY POINTING IT OUT AND ABSOLUTELY THERE’S A LOT OF PRIORITIES FOR OUR SCHOOLS AND FUNDING. AS I STATED; WE’VE A THREE AND $29 FOR PLUS. WE ARE SPENDING LESS THAN 10% ON OUR KIDS. WE CAN DO MORE AND WE CAN DO BETTER. THAT’S JUST WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.>>REPRESENTATIVE DEAN: THANK YOU. I WAS NOT EVEN AWARE THIS WAS AN ISSUE UNTIL YOU BROUGHT IT UP YOU SAID THAT CURRENTLY; CHILDREN ARE DRINKING LED WATER WITH LEAD OF UNSAFE LEVELS AND WE ARE NOT COMMUNICATING THAT AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED WITH THIS BILL. THAT IS SOMETHING NEW TO ME THAT I DO NOT KNOW EXISTED SO THAT WASN’T SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE THAT SOMETHING YOU BROUGHT UP IN THIS COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME AND THAT’S WHY WE ARE RESPONDING TO IT.>>TESTIFIER: I DO NOT THE CHILDREN WERE DRINKING IT. I SAID THAT YOU ASKED ME TO OTHER BUILDINGS HAVE LED IN THEM AND THAT ANSWER IS YES. BUT THEY HAVE FLUSHING THAT THEY DO WELL IF YOUR HEAD CUSTODIAN IS GONE AND YOU HAVE A SUB IT’S POSSIBLE THE FLUSHING WILL NOT HAPPEN. I’M JUST SAYING YOU COULD INTRODUCE HUM AN ERROR. ALL I AM ASKING FOR IS THAT WILL BE SHUT OFF SO CHILDREN ARE NOT EXPOSED AND DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY DRINK. I DON’T ANY TEACHER OR PRINCIPAL OR SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTAND SCHOOL BOARD WOULD INTENTIONALLY HAVE KIDS DRINKING LED IN THE WATER AND THEY MAY THINK THAT THERE NOTIFYING AND PUTTING IT UP BUT SO MANY PARENTS DON’T GO TO THOSE WEBSITES. MAYBE THEY MISS THE FLYER. I JUST THINK WE COULD BE MUCH MORE INTENTIONAL AROUND IT.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: OKAY I DON’T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER; THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WE HAVE ONE OTHER TESTIFIER FOR THIS BILL THAT IS ERICA MOSS AND SHE IF SHE WOULD COME FORWARD. MS. MOSS; WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS.>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. M Y NAME IS ERICA MOSS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION CALLED CLOSE THE GAP BY FIVE. I’LL BE BRIEF BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TONIGHT. SO WE ARE IN EARLY EDUCATION ADVOCACY NONPROFITS. FOCUS ON USING EARLY NINE TO CLOSE OPPORTUNITY AND ACHIEVEMENT GAPS THAT PLAGUE MINNESOTA’S COMMITTEES FAMILIES AND ECONOMY CAN WE USE IT FOR THINGS THAT RESEARCH SAYS WE MUST DO TO CLOSE ACHIEVEMENT GAPS. TO EVALUATE POLICY PROPOSAL. FIRST; MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS; EARLY LEARNING; SECOND TARGETED LIMIT A RESOURCE TO THE MOST VULNERABLE AND THIRD DEMAND EQUALITY AND KEEP IT FLEXIBLE AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LET THE COMMITTEE KNOW TODAY THAT EARLY LEARNING SCHOLARSHIPS ARE A POLICY THAT MEET THESE FOUR CRITERIA AND MORE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO DO S O THE PROBLEM WITH SCHOLARSHIPS AND ABOUT 35;000 CHILDREN UNABLE TO RECEIVE THEM. WE APPRECIATE SUPPORT GOV. DAYTON BIPARTISAN LEADERS INCLUDING REPRESENTATIVE LOON OVER THE YEARS IN SUPPORT OF THIS POLICY BUT WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE GOVERNOR’S BUDGET CONTAINED NO NEW MONEY FOR SCHOLARSHIPS THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION WILL RECOMMENDING $59 MORE FOR A UNIVERSAL PRE-K PROGRAM CALLED VOLUNTARY PRE-K HERE IN MINNESOTA. WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH A POLICY THAT WE STATED IN EDUCATION COMMITTEE AND OTHER STOPS ALONG THE WAY THAT THAT POLICY UNFORTUNATELY STARTS TOO LATE AND CHILDREN’S LIVES TO REALLY ADDRESS ACHIEVEMENT GAPS AND WITH THE SCHEDULE TYPICALLY OF 2-3 HOURS PER DAY FOR NINE MONTHS OFFERS TOO LITTLE HELP. THAT POLICY AS OPPOSED TO SCHOLARSHIP ALSO FLEXIBLE OFFERING [INAUDIBLE] NOT CHOICE TO PARENTS. IN SUMMARY WE JUST LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO KNOW THAT WELL-INTENTIONED POLICY MAY FALL SHORT IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING ACHIEVEMENT GAPS AND WE WOULD URGE LEADERS TO INVEST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND SCHOLARSHIPS ACROSS AS THIS ADVANCES AND IF THERE’S OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TARGET TO GROW ECONOMISTS LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND OTHER STRESS EARLY INVESTMENTS ARE TREMENDOUS PUBLIC INVESTOR S TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR RETURN BUT ONLY OF THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE MADE WIDELY. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: ANY QUESTIONS FOR ERICA MOSS? ALL RIGHT; THANK YOU MS. MOSS. I THINK WHAT I LIKE TO DO AT THIS POINT IS AND THEN SINCE WE ARE DONE WITH AMENDMENTS ON THIS BILL THAT WE INTRODUCED WE HAVE THE HIGHER ED BILL AND I WOULD LIKE TO THEN TAKE THE HIGHER ED BILL AS AMENDED; AMENDED ONTO THIS BILL AND THEN WE WILL TAKE COMMISSIONER POGEMILLER WANTS TO TESTIFY ON THAT BILL. SO; AT THIS TIME I WOULD MOVE THAT HOUSE FILE 3638 AS AMENDED BE AMENDED ONTO HOUSE FILE 4320. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION TO THAT PROCEDURAL AMENDMENTS? SEEING NONE; ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED; NAY. THE MOTION PREVAILS. HOUSE FILE 3628 AS AMENDED AS AMENDED ONTO HOUSE FILE 4 328.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: COMMISSIONER POGEMILLER IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD. COMMISSIONER POGEMILLERWELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE TO WAYS AND MEANS>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR I BELIEVE THERE’S A LETTER THAT WE PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE. I WANT TO THANK THE HIGHER ED DIVISION I READ COMMITTEE AND REPRESENTATIVE NORNES FIRST COURTESY AND HIS STAFF AS ALWAYS WAS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THEM. FIRST JUST WANT TO MENTION VARIOUS POLICY ITEMS THAT HELP IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS FOR TEACHERS BORROWERS AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS INCLUDED IN THE BILL AND WE APPRECIATE THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT THE GOVERNOR RECOMMENDS PARTICULARLY ESPECIALLY ON FENCE THERE’S A SPECIAL REVENUE ACCOUNT FOR THE SPINAL CORD DRAMATIC INJURY RESEARCH DOLLARS THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS FUNDED. THAT’S A WISE DECISION AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. THE AMENDMENT YOU AT TONIGHT THIS EVENING MOVING MONEY TO MNSTATE FOR CAMPUS SUPPORT AND A MODEST AMOUNT FOR HOLDING TUITION OFF AT UNIVERSITY THAT DIRECTION THE GOVERNOR ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTS AND APPRECIATE THAT MOVEMENT OBVIOUSLY THE DOLLARS ARE NOT AT THE LEVEL HE IS SUGGESTING HOPES YOU WILL GIVE CONSIDERATION TO MOVING IT EVEN FURTHER. FINALLY; TO SMALLER ITEMS THAT COULD BE HELPFUL. THE FIRST IS A-THERE IS A PROGRAM THAT MNSTATE IS WORKING ON IT FOR THEIR INSTITUTIONS THAT MINNESOTA RECONNECT WHICH IS FOR RETURNING OVER 25 -RETURNING ADULTS TO FINISH THEIR STUDIES COULD THE ARTY HAVE 15 CREDITS NOW FIND THEMSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE THEY COULD USE ADDITIONAL CREDITS TO GET A CERTIFICATE OR HELP THEM IN THE WORK ENVIRONMENT CAN THIS IS SOMETHING THE LOOMAN FOUNDATION IS GRANTED ABOUT SEVEN AND $50;000 OVER THREE YEARS. TO MNSTATE FOR AND WE HAVE SUGGESTED AND I BELIEVE MNSTATE SUPPORTS REDIRECTING MONEY FROM THE OCCUPATIONAL SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM THAT IS UNUSED; 1.3 MILLION. IT’S NOT GOING TO BE EXPANDED AND REDIRECTING IT FOR THIS CONNECT PROGRAM AND WE WOULD HOPE THAT AS THE BILL PRECEDES CONSIDERATION WILL BE GIVEN TO THAT. IT’S BEST PRACTICE RESEARCH THAT LOOMAN HAS FUNDED AND MNSTATE IS ACTUALLY ALREADY STARTED TO TRY TO HIRE THE STAFF PEOPLE THAT WOULD IMPLEMENT THIS SO THAT WOULD REALLY-IT WOULD ADD MONEY TO THE 750 THEY ALREADY GOT FROM LUMINA TO DO MORE AND BETTER WORK FOR ABOUT 500 RETURNIN G ADULTS. ONE OTHER ITEM THEN THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO POINT OUT THAT HE’S DISAPPOINTED THE PELL GRANT FILL IN FOR MINNESOTA DREAMERS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BILL. HE RECOMMENDED THAT LAST YEAR THE YEAR BEFORE AND THIS YEAR AND AGAIN THAT WOULD HELP ABOUT 560 STUDENTS REALIZE THEIR DREAM OF COLLEGE EDUCATION. MINNESOTA DREAMERS. MR. CHAIRMAN THAT’S IT. AGAIN REPRESENTATIVE NORNES COMMITTEE ARE A JOY TO WORK WITH AND WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT IN THE BILL.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: ANY CLASH QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER POGEMILLER.. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER THE BILL IS BEFORE US AS AMENDED. OTHER DISCUSSION TO THE BILL? OKAY I SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION AND SO; MEMBERS CHAIR LOON RENEWS HER MOTION THAT HOUSE FILE 4328 AS AMENDED BE REFERRED TO THE GENERAL REGISTER AND THAT STAFF MAKE ANY TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS NECESSARY TO EITHER HOUSE FILE 3638 THOSE PREVIOUSLY AMENDED AS WELL AS HOUSE FILE 4328 TO REFLECT THE WILL OF THE COMMITTEE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED; NAY. THE MOTION PREVAILS. HOUSE FILE 4328 AS AMENDED IS REFERRED TO THE GENERAL REGISTER.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: MEMBERS; FOR TOMORROW IT IS MY EXPECTATION OF BE MUCH THE SAME AS TODAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN HUDDLES AFTER THE SESSION ADJOURNS AND THEN THAT WE WOULD MEET TO TAKE UP THE LEGACY BILL IN THE PUBLIC SAFE TY BILL. REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON IS BECAUSE IN I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD ANY IDEA WHEN THE EDUCATION BILL WOULD BE BEFORE THE FULL HOUSE?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: THAT REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON I DON’T HAVE AN ANSWER TO. REPRESENTATIVE LOON; DO YOU KNOW WITH THE SCHEDULE IS FOR THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE FLOOR?>>REPRESENTATIVE LOON: MR. CHAIR; I THINK THE END OF THIS WEEK MAYBE THURSDAY. I CANNOT SAY EXCEPT TENTATIVELY TO WE GET THAT SIGNAL>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: THANK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REPRESENTATIVE MARK>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: THANK YOU; MR. CHAIR. CHAIR DAVIDS IF I COULD-I KNOW TOMORROW ALSO WE HAVE A TAX COMMITTEE THAT WILL BE MEETING DURING THE DAY AND THERE’S A NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON BOTH. NORMALLY IT DOESN’T MATTER THAT MUCH. I SHOULD NOT SAY THAT BUT THERE’S GOING TO BE VOTES BEING TAKEN IN EACH OF THOSE SO I JUST HOPE THE CHAIRS WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK THAT OUT SO THAT WE CAN PROPERLY ATTEND BOTH.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: YES; REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART WE TALKED ABOUT THAT I THINK WILL BE ABLE TO COORDINATED THE LEAST THERE’S NO CONFLICT IN VOTING.>>REPRESENTATIVE MARQURT: THANK YOU VERY MUCH>>CH AIR KNOBLACH: REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS ANYTHING TO?>>CHAIR DAVIDS: THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION BUT WILL BE GOING AT THE SAME TIME I THINK WHEN VOTES ARE GOING ON IT WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC TESTIMONY IN TAXES AND WE WOULD NOT VOTE ANYTHING IN TAXES INTO WE HAD NOTIFIED FOLKS IN WAYS AND MEANS TO SAY HEY; GET OVER THERE QUICK.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: I WAS A; TOO; REPRESENTATIVE MARQUART WILL SEE WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS LIKE AND I LIKE TO BE THERE FOR THE TESTIMONY; TO IF I COULD AS I’M SURE OTHER MEMBERS WOULD. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO SEE HOW MUCH TIME EVERYTHING TAKES ON THE FLOOR TOMORROW AND SUCH AS WERE FIGURING OUT THE EXACT SCHEDULE AFTERWARDS . REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON’S BECAUSE AND I WAS JUST ONE OF REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS PLANS ON MEETING MORE THAN 17 MINUTES?>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: I SUSPECT THE ANSWER IS YES BUT REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS>>REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDS: THANK YOU; MR. CH AIR TO REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON IF I CAN GO 15; I WILL GO 15.>>CHAIR KNOBLACH: I WAS AT THAT MEETING REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON AND THERE WERE NOT MANY QUESTIONS ASKED. TO GO VERY QUICKLY. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS MEMBERS WE ARE ADJOURNED.>>[GAVEL]>>[ADJOURNMENT]>>

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